Taliaferro Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 A new book should be available through Amazon Kindle books this week. The book's title is:Gaging A Thompson: Manufacturing Inspection Tools By Tracie L. Hill The books is 420 pp color photo soft cover book. List price is $100.00. The book describes the treasure trove of inspection gages found a few years ago and explains theintended use of each gage. This book will not be for everybody. But, is intended to educate a studentof the Thompson on just how complex the design was to manufacture. If you are coming to The All Thompson Show and Shoot and are interested in a copy PM me and I will have your copy sitting awaiting your arrival. Thanks to David Albert, Tom Davis, Roger Herbst, Sutton Coffman and Paul Gromkowski for all of their timeand help on this project. Tracie Hill 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gio Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 Thanks Tracie just what I needed another Thompson book. You know how to push my hot button. Will have to order this P M. Frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin601 Posted June 17, 2020 Report Share Posted June 17, 2020 Purchased.I am as sucker for Thompson manufacturing books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD. Posted June 17, 2020 Report Share Posted June 17, 2020 Paladin601,I believe you and all Thompson enthusiasts will enjoy this book. The production and inspection gages are simply amazing. And there is more! Here is a link: https://www.amazon.com/Gaging-Thompson-Manufacturing-Inspection-Tools/dp/B08B7G42RK/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=gaging+a+Thompson&qid=1592414096&sr=8-1 All the gages will be on display at this years Hill family All Thompson Show & Shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin601 Posted June 17, 2020 Report Share Posted June 17, 2020 Paladin601,I believe you and all Thompson enthusiasts will enjoy this book. The production and inspection gages are simply amazing. And there is more! Here is a link: https://www.amazon.com/Gaging-Thompson-Manufacturing-Inspection-Tools/dp/B08B7G42RK/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=gaging+a+Thompson&qid=1592414096&sr=8-1 All the gages will be on display at this years Hill family All Thompson Show & Shoot.Thanks TD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taliaferro Posted June 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2020 If anyone wants an autographed copy just PM and I will sign one and send it to you. PM me with details. Thanks Tracie Hill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiz Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 TATA book signing? Cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gio Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 My book came in the mail this PM. This book is not for everyone but if you are a mechanical nut like me I found it very interesting. Seeing those gages at the Creek when T.D. and David first made the deal on the batch they looked in real bad shape. The next time I saw them was at the TATA show. Tracie has spent a incredible amount of time putting this book together in a interesting read. Tracie thanks.Frank 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reconbob Posted June 29, 2020 Report Share Posted June 29, 2020 Received my book today. I agree it is not for everybody but filled with many fascinatingphotos of parts and gages. I am very happy with it and will enjoy reading it...BUT...the book was shipped (by Amazon) in a thin, flimsybubble envelope which was completely unable to protect the book - which is a soft cover -book weighing 2 1/2 lbs. Not what I expect for a $100 book. Mine looks like it wasdropped on the corner one or more times and did not arrive in new condition. Its notworth it to fight the battle but I would caution others not to order this book until there areassurances that it will be shipped in a BOX so it will arrive undamaged. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gio Posted June 29, 2020 Report Share Posted June 29, 2020 Bob, My book came from Amazon and was packaged the same. Mine looked as if it had been dropped once. Frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD. Posted June 29, 2020 Report Share Posted June 29, 2020 Bob & Frank,I too have had trouble with the packaging from Amazon. If any of the books I buy arrived damaged, I request a call and the books are replaced. A few times I have had to take a picture of the damage and upload the pictures - easy enough to do. I always purchase 10 or more books and they are packed in a box but often without enough packing material. It is like, what are you thinking! When I get a folded cover or bent corner, I bitch. And so far it seems to have worked! I am sure Tracie would pack all the books he sells directly in a box. I use a cardboard book cover when shipping but my books are not near as many pages as the Gage book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taliaferro Posted June 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2020 Sorry to hear about the Amazon shipping issues. Any books ordered through me are shipped in cardboard book boxes. Tracie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin601 Posted June 30, 2020 Report Share Posted June 30, 2020 I concur, ORDER it from Tracie. Mine came from Amazon as well. If I knew Amazon would of shipped it in a bubble envelope, I would of had second thoughts. But if it was damaged in any way, Amazon would definitely hear about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin601 Posted June 30, 2020 Report Share Posted June 30, 2020 Received my book today. I agree it is not for everybody but filled with many fascinatingphotos of parts and gages. I am very happy with it and will enjoy reading it...BUT...the book was shipped (by Amazon) in a thin, flimsybubble envelope which was completely unable to protect the book - which is a soft cover -book weighing 2 1/2 lbs. Not what I expect for a $100 book. Mine looks like it wasdropped on the corner one or more times and did not arrive in new condition. Its notworth it to fight the battle but I would caution others not to order this book until there areassurances that it will be shipped in a BOX so it will arrive undamaged. BobMy guess is that by using "CNC Centers" has completely eliminated the use of Gages in the manufacturing of your receivers? I was surprised that gages were even used for exterior profile radius's and the scalloped machining. Openned up a lot on early 20th century machining and manufacturing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taliaferro Posted July 1, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 Even in this computer age, I am seeing a return to templates. They are a low tech accuratecheck that can be done on an assembly line without the need to drag the machined part into a QC area fora cmm to inspect. Tracie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron_brock Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 Bump to the top to remind me (and others) to order one. Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Iannamico Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 Recommended, I like history, it is pretty amazing that the gages, used to build Thompsons nearly a century ago, have survived.Kudos to Tracie for finding the gages, figuring what they were used for AND documenting it. Nice detailed photos too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vettom Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 got my Tracie signed book too, I find this info very interesting, thanks for all the efforts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantpanda4 Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 Yes, very interesting. As an engineer (retired...), I can appreciate all that goes into the manufacture of these gauges (gages?) as well as the day to day use. I think the hardest part was deciphering what each one did. Once that was figured out, and all the cleaning and photography done, it sure made a great story. Thanks a lot - the effort in doing the book is very appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reconbob Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 I just saw the note about manufacturing receivers. I canonly speak for myself (Phila Ordnance). When we make thereceivers, once the tools are set in the machining center (whichholds 90 tools but we only use about 45 for Thompsons) theonly time we need to check or change anything is when a toolbreaks or gets dull. We 100% inspect the barrel thread, the trigger frame rails,and the grip mount slot, but everything else is pretty muchOK. If it's a 100% receiver of course we check the bolt pocketand angle cuts for the bronze lock. We have a variety of measuring and gaging tools such asgage pins, calipers, micrometers, etc. which take the placeof the specialized gages enumerated in Tracies book. Of course, we are not making hundreds of thousands asthey did back in the day. Today most likely a lot of checkingwould be done by computerized coordinate measuringmachines, but there is often nothing better - and simple -than GO and NO GO gages as seen in the book. The beauty and simplicity of a GO/NO GO gage is thatit enables a barely skilled worker to accurately check a partand not have know how to use precision measuring tools such a micrometers, etc. A factory during the time when the Thompsons weremade would have had a huge floor with hundreds ofsimple milling machines where each machine would beset for a specific cut on a part. Frequently the machinewould not have hand wheels but use a simple lever for the operator to make the cut. Ten operations or cutsmight be done on ten machines with the parts passeddown the line. In this environment the almost idiot proof gagesas found in the book would be used to quickly andeasily check the parts as they moved down the line. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taliaferro Posted August 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 I just wanted to THANK everyone who has purchased a copy of this title. Great comments Bob. Tracie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mk VII Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 When you have unskilled or semi-skilled labour you have to break things down into very simple steps and use LOTS of gauges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imageaudio Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 Well, just purchased my copy of the "Gaging a Thompson" book and was blown away by the number of quality pictures included. I realize this topic is somewhat old but if you haven't purchased a copy yet, and have an interest in machining, tooling, and the quality control process, this is a great book to add to your library. Found my copy on Amazon. Thanks Tracie for such a great contribution to the Thompson collecting community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD. Posted September 6, 2022 Report Share Posted September 6, 2022 Amazon.com has this new Thompson book by Tracie Hill (softcover edition) on sale at $41.14 with free shipping right now. Act quickly; I do not know how long the sale will last. Gaging A Thompson: Manufacturing Inspection Tools: Hill, Mr Tracie Lynn: 9798646784750: Amazon.com: Books Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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