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[gijive]

Just a short tribute to actor George Segal who died yesterday at age 87.  He played Pete Gusenberg in the 1967 Roger Corman film, "The St. Valentine's Day Massacre.  Just a short clip from one of my favorite scenes in the movie.

 

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Edited by gijive, 24 March 2021 - 10:38 AM.

[TD.]

A great scene. Thank you for posting. While very realistic, I think a C drum would be the better choice for the Thompson gun given the length of fire I like how the actuator or bolt was cocked when George got out of the car and the actuator stayed in the closed position when he finished firing.  

[Arthur Fliegenheimer]

George Segal in 1962 "The Longest Day" with BAR

In 1966 "Les Centurions" with Carbine and MAT 49

 

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[gijive]

Nice stills, Arthur.  Thanks for posting.

[bob241]

It is my understanding that a thompson drum does not have a hold open built into the drum, like a magazine, so if the drum was empty the actuator would go to the closed position, someone that has fired a thompson using  a drum would know if this is correct, I only know what I have read.

[M17ap]

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[gijive]

It is my understanding that a thompson drum does not have a hold open built into the drum, like a magazine, so if the drum was empty the actuator would go to the closed position, someone that has fired a thompson using  a drum would know if this is correct, I only know what I have read.

Bob,

 

Yes, that is correct.  The bolt closes on an empty chamber after the rounds are exhausted in the original Thompson drum magazine.

[gijive]

Another short clip of the bully Peter Gusenberg near the opening of the movie.

 

St Valentines Day Massacre - YouTube

 

 

[Arthur Fliegenheimer]

Nice stills, Arthur.  Thanks for posting.

 

 A remarkably versatile actor.

Here he is in 1969 "Bridge At Remagen"    George Segal Bridge At Regan 1969 M1 Carbine with 30rd.jpg   84.28K   22 downloads

[gijive]

Nice stills, Arthur.  Thanks for posting.

 

 A remarkably versatile actor.

Here he is in 1969 "Bridge At Remagen"   George Segal Bridge At Regan 1969 M1 Carbine with 30rd.jpg

Yes, Arthur.  Well-versed in WWII firearms technology, as well.

[full auto 45]

All the firing on the sidewalk, and not one shell casing on the ground.

[BRMCII]

Or in the air.........

[ppgcowboy]

It is my understanding that a thompson drum does not have a hold open built into the drum, like a magazine, so if the drum was empty the actuator would go to the closed position, someone that has fired a thompson using  a drum would know if this is correct, I only know what I have read.

I think TD's comment was referring to Hollywood actually getting it right.

[jpw43]

It is my understanding that a thompson drum does not have a hold open built into the drum, like a magazine, so if the drum was empty the actuator would go to the closed position, someone that has fired a thompson using  a drum would know if this is correct, I only know what I have read.

Usually in the movies they get it wrong and show someone walking around with a drum and the actuator in the forward position indicating it's empty.

[jpw43]

My favorite George Segal movie is "The Black Bird" where he plays Sam Spade's son.

Sort of a sequel to "The Maltese Falcon." 

I think it's on YouTube

[dalbert]

Hi Chuck,

I meant to wish you a happy birthday yesterday. Hope you had a good day, and I also hope well all see you at an event later this year.

David

[gijive]

Hi Chuck,

I meant to wish you a happy birthday yesterday. Hope you had a good day, and I also hope well all see you at an event later this year.

David

Thanks, Dave.  Hope to see you as well.

[colt21a]

Great actor and a good movie and they never set foot in Chicago to film it all back lot and stage stuff. At least in Untouchables on a larger scale they had to make the trip.I watched that one for the better part of 30 plus years on Valentines day and did the reenactment for China Club.with Bill  Helmer and Rich Crowe... I was able to empty a 50 rd drum and the crowd jumped when the gun went off. I guess many never heard a Thompson in full auto in closed quarters. Every Stembridge blank Performed Well. good times.Ron K.

[richard w.]

George Segal had at some training with firearms. He did a short hitch in the Army after being drafted in the 50s.

 

Very, very few actors today have served.  Adam Driver (USMC) is the only one I can think of right now.

[mnshooter]

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Along with George Segal, Robert "Napoleon Solo" Vaughn played Major Krueger, assigned to defend or destroy the Remagen Bridge.

The sound effects included some of the same used in "Combat"; you can hear Saunders Thompson in a few scenes.

Edited by mnshooter, 04 April 2021 - 09:55 PM.