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[HANS]

Can someone tell if a Thompson foregrip is the genuine article or a copy? I'm trying to find out whether the foregrips mounted below the Winchester carbines found with the Dillinger and various other gangs were supplied by Auto-Ordnance (you could order them individually) or crafted by the gunsmith who converted the weapons. Unfortunately I have only relatively lousy photos like the one below, but perhaps the identification is easier than I imagine ... Thanks for your help!

 

Cheers

 

HANS

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Edited by HANS, 23 February 2021 - 08:28 AM.

[Taliaferro]

This are pictures I took a few years back of the Dilinger guns on display in Tucson.

 

I believe all grips were original.

 

Tracie

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[jl7422]

Originals. Lebman had the hook-up to get factory grips,

[HANS]

This are pictures I took a few years back of the Dilinger guns on display in Tucson.

 

I believe all grips were original.

 

Tracie

Thanks!

 

Cheers

 

HANS

[HANS]

Originals. Lebman had the hook-up to get factory grips,

 

Ah! I personally no longer believe that the four converted carbines were made by Hyman Lebman. I hope to publish my research in this matter in the not-too-distant future.

 

Cheers

 

HANS

Edited by HANS, 23 February 2021 - 02:11 PM.

[colt21a]

YOU MEAN THIS STUFF.yes originals got to handle it over a decade ago.And the tale about Dillingers car left here to pay attorney fee's.family got the car years later. and sent to body shop for restoration. and 2 21's found in the door panels. and seating area. the guy panicked. called Police GUNS gone.{I had a few questions  why would he not call owner of car to say what was found?} was not his property to turn over to anybody. Man there are a ton of plain stupid boobs in the world.RON K.

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[jl7422]

Can't wait to see the research!

[HANS]

YOU MEAN THIS STUFF.yes originals got to handle it over a decade ago.And the tale about Dillingers car left here to pay attorney fee's.family got the car years later. and sent to body shop for restoration. and 2 21's found in the door panels. and seating area. the guy panicked. called Police GUNS gone.{I had a few questions  why would he not call owner of car to say what was found?} was not his property to turn over to anybody. Man there are a ton of plain stupid boobs in the world.RON K.

 

Thanks for confirming that the grips on the Winchesters were originals.

The story about the guns in the doors and seats is new, more details on that?

 

Cheers

 

HANS

[HANS]

Can't wait to see the research!

I'm still waiting on more files from the FBI that I ordered via FOIA, literally years ago now. I've dug up two more converted Winchesters (in addition to the two seized from the Dillinger Gang), one in Chicago, one in New York. I am rather exited about some of my findings

 

Cheers

 

HANS

[jl7422]

Either of the two additional Winchesters in private hands?  (I know, I know. . . wait for the book. . . )

[HANS]

Either of the two additional Winchesters in private hands?  (I know, I know. . . wait for the book. . . )

Unfortunately I don't know. One was seized by the FBI, that probably (although not necessarily) disappeared in the Firearm Lab never to be seen again by interested civilians OR was destroyed at some point. The other was seized by the NYPD. No idea what they did with it.

 

Cheers

 

HANS