rpbcps Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 (edited) A few photos which may interest some of you. The first shows soldiers of the IDFs Givati Brigade, I believe in the 1948 war. Second is an IDF soldier during the period of the 6 day war in 1967. Finally, this one does not have a Thompson in the photo, but I included it, as it is one of my favourite IDF photos... Stay safe Richard Edited November 7, 2017 by rpbcps 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMG28 Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 Richard, I particularly love some of the features of the Sinai pic gun. The comp is mounted upside down, it has an unprotected L-sight, and the bolt is forward on an empty XX mag. Not sure how or why the comp is upside down, especially with the pin still in place, but as noted on one of the adjacent threads, apparently you can force that condition. The 1948 pic appears to be a 1928 and an M1. Can't argue about your inclusion of pic 3. Thanks for sharing.Roger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adg105200 Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 Interesting pictures, thanks for sharing. My guess on the missaligned comp is that the barrel was swapped from another 1928 and they may have been in a hurry to get the gun back into action. Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpbcps Posted November 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 (edited) Roger,Is it unusual for 1928A1's to have unprotected L-sights? I got the impression there was a lot of them produced, both with smooth and finned barrels near the end of production as they were moving across to producing M1s? In my collection I have two deactivated 1928A1's with unprotected L-sights, one, a Savage, with a smooth barrel and the other produced by Auto-Ordnance with a finned barrel. Note, the bolts are forward on both empty XX magazines Stay safeRichard Edited November 7, 2017 by rpbcps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim c 351 Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 Nothing odd about the "L" sight or the bolt forward.There were probably many more 28A1s made with the "L" site than the adjustable sight.And it would be normal to have the bolt forward on a loaded mag when no enemy is in the area.As far as the comp being out of alignment , maybe it was a West Hurley. Just last Sunday , at Tusco Rifle Club, I saw a West Hurley with the comp misaligned like the pictured gun.The big question, the one everyone is overlooking, is where does the lady keep her spare mags???Jim C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpbcps Posted November 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 Nothing odd about the "L" sight or the bolt forward.There were probably many more 28A1s made with the "L" site than the adjustable sight.And it would be normal to have the bolt forward on a loaded mag when no enemy is in the area.As far as the comp being out of alignment , maybe it was a West Hurley. Just last Sunday , at Tusco Rifle Club, I saw a West Hurley with the comp misaligned like the pictured gun.The big question, the one everyone is overlooking, is where does the lady keep her spare mags???Jim CJim,I thought that was the case re; L sights, and as for the lady, she is probably wearing a 5.11 Tactical Bikini, those 5.11 design guys come up with all sorts of ingenious ways to covertly hide/store mags in clothing! stay safeRichard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppgcowboy Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 The big question, the one everyone is overlooking, is where does the lady keep her spare mags???Jim CI am not a gynecologist, but I'll take a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Fliegenheimer Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 Two 1928 TSMGs Israeli policemen meet a Jordanian legionnaire near the Mandelbaum Gate on the ceasefire line 1950 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azboater Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 (edited) A few photos which may interest some of you. The first shows soldiers of the IDFs Givati Brigade, I believe in the 1948 war. IDF Givati Brigade soldiers .jpg Second is an IDF soldier during the period of the 6 day war in 1967. IDF Soldier Sinai 1967.JPG Finally, this one does not have a Thompson in the photo, but I included it, as it is one of my favourite IDF photos... serveimageHWPHL4US.jpg Stay safe RichardThis looks like the same IDF soldier from the front and the same gun (look at the sling it's exact) but now the compensator is straight...............and the description of the photo is 1952 Edited November 7, 2017 by azboater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridgeport28A1 Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 Going from memory in Frank American Thunder books, the plain L sight started to appear in Savage 1928A1 production around the 500,000 serial number range, around the 85,000 serial number range in the AOC Bridgeport plant 1928A1's. Looking at overall production of Savage and AOC Bridgeport there should be less plain L sight 1928A1's produced then the Lyman adjustable rear sight production. They might appear more common due to them being produced just prior to the adoption of the M1 Thompson. Quite a few plain L 1928 Thompson's pictured in combat theaters in The Thompson Submachine Gun book by Tom Laemlein. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpbcps Posted November 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2019 A few more photos of Israeli soldiers with Thompsons: All found on the Russian website Guns.Ruhttp://www.machinegunboards.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=23949 Stay safeRichard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Mills Posted November 10, 2019 Report Share Posted November 10, 2019 Fellas,I'm sure the following aspect of L sights has been discussed before: Arsenal rebuilds and/or field repairs. I know of a 1928A1 #S-118846 in a museum that was a rebuild from RIA. So regardless of when a part may have been introduced to a particular model, we certainly see a whole slew of variations out there and in pics; it appears that only the safe or armorer's vault queens remain "virgin" in original equipment. Or so it would seem. Fun to see all the different modes of dress for the Thompson.Love the upside down comps. So much for "driving the barrel gases down" as advertised in the Cutts sales literature Very cool pics by the way, thanks for all the additions. Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJX Posted November 10, 2019 Report Share Posted November 10, 2019 A few photos which may interest some of you. Second is an IDF soldier during the period of the 6 day war in 1967. IDF Soldier Sinai 1967.JPGI am thinking the compensator is upside down because it did not have a pin in it. What looks like a pin in the photo could just be the hole and the pin fell out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeRanger Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 While I'm still a TSMG guy, I do appreciate an AR with all the necessary accessories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DZelenka Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 (edited) Roger,Is it unusual for 1928A1's to have unprotected L-sights? I got the impression there was a lot of them produced, both with smooth and finned barrels near the end of production as they were moving across to producing M1s? In my collection I have two deactivated 1928A1's with unprotected L-sights, one, a Savage, with a smooth barrel and the other produced by Auto-Ordnance with a finned barrel. S 541933 LS XX Mag.JPG No.14 body .JPG Note, the bolts are forward on both empty XX magazines Stay safeRichardCan you send some pictures of the Thompson with the British stock modifications. I just picked up one like that and would like to have some reference photos for comparison. Edited November 12, 2019 by DZelenka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navwings Posted November 13, 2019 Report Share Posted November 13, 2019 I'd very much like to see photos of the Brit modified front vertical grip.I need to know what sort of swivel and if it was inletted. THX,Owen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpbcps Posted November 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2019 I'd very much like to see photos of the Brit modified front vertical grip.I need to know what sort of swivel and if it was inletted. THX,OwenOwen,Here is a previous post on the subject:http://www.machinegunboards.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=17195&hl=%2Bvertical+%2Bforegrips&do=findComment&comment=144742 Stay safeRichard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navwings Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 Many thanks for the grip photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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