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#1 Thundertaker

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Posted 09 August 2018 - 01:40 AM

I have been following the sales of the Reising Model 65 for some time on various sources.  I finally decided to do some bidding on a really nice one on Gunbroker, and I was able to secure it for $370.00 just today.  I thought that was a good price as I see the range running from $300 to $600.  On the same day (today), another Reising 65 that I also had ear marked to bid on if this one went out of my range, sold for an astonishing (to me) $1375.00!  Am I missing something on their values?  The serial number on mine is 89xx, and the one that sold for $1375 was #5709 which I see is not particularly special. I saw no USMC markings and none was mentioned. The icing on the cake.......that gun had no mag! Someone please educate me.  


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Posted 09 August 2018 - 02:19 AM

If you could please send links to the auctions, it would be helpful.  $1375 is very high...in fact, it's the highest sales price I've heard of for a normal Model 65.  $370 is a low price, so you should feel good about it.  That being said, the one that sold for the high price is within the known/likely USMC serial number range, and the one that you bought is not.  It is generally accepted, though not exactly proven that the first 6000 Model 65's went to the USMC.  Perhaps the buyer at $1375 knew that, and "had to have" a known USMC serial number range Model 65 for their collection.  Of course, there had to be 2 bidders interested in it to drive up the price.

 

There were small changes made as production progressed, though there should be no significant difference between the two Model 65's that you mention.  

 

One thing that can affect value is whether the rifle's receiver has been drilled and tapped, or otherwise modified later in its life.  Also, some rifles have the wrong rear sights on them, or are missing their rear sight, and that can easily cost $150 to $200, and become somewhat of a quest to locate a replacement.  Front sights were also a common after market modification.  That's why the auction links to photos would be quite helpful to evaluate whether it was just auction fever, or if other factors may have contributed to the wide price variation.

 

Model 65's were not marked with USMC markings at the factory.  USMC markings are unusual, and could have been applied by a USMC unit armorer, however some USMC markings we have encountered are almost certainly the work of a faker trying to enhance the value of the rifle, and any USMC marking on a Model 65 should be closely scrutinized, and is extremely uncommon.  Again, these rifles were not USMC marked when they left the factory, with the exception of some later Model MC-58's, which were manufactured in 1958-59 for the USMC.  MC-58's were Model 65's with the M1 Garand style safety in the trigger guard, and some had "USMC" incorporated into the overall model designation roll marked on the receiver.

 

Hope this helps...I sort of have a Model 65 affliction myself...

 

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#3 Thundertaker

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Posted 09 August 2018 - 07:07 AM

Here is the actual auction. I don't know how to make it any bigger. I think you can make it bigger by just clicking on it.

 

 

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Posted 09 August 2018 - 07:16 AM

Here is the one I bought...same auction....same day.

 

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Posted 09 August 2018 - 07:18 AM

I think mine has a wrong mag (maybe Marlin?). Anyway, it doesn't look correct, but I have a correct one.


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Posted 09 August 2018 - 07:45 AM

Here are a couple of other pictures of the $1375.00 gun:Attached File  pix730578074.jpg   31.12K   6 downloadsAttached File  pix031943318.jpg   38.73K   8 downloadsAttached File  pix333830658.jpg   35.77K   8 downloadsAttached File  pix857799724.jpg   28.89K   9 downloadsAttached File  pix570547121.jpg   15.22K   9 downloads


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Posted 09 August 2018 - 07:52 AM

Here are some pictures of my $370 gun:

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Posted 09 August 2018 - 10:59 AM

Thundertaker,

You got a good deal.

As to the $1375 price for the other Model 65...It's high condition and almost certain USMC WWII provenance drove two people to bid it up. It's one of the best condition USMC serial number range examples I've seen.

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