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#1 sherman3

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Posted 16 March 2017 - 03:56 PM

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Posted 16 March 2017 - 04:59 PM

Wow, I've never seen that one before. I can look it up in my Swearengen book over the weekend. Ron Brock also has the book, and might be able to check it before then.

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Posted 16 March 2017 - 09:19 PM

Sherman3,

re there any other markings at all on the billy?  look closely just to make sure.  I do not see Greer listed in Tear Gas Munitions, at least not in the index.  I will have a closer look to see if this matches a pattern of billies.  Some of these were marketed by Lake Erie, although did not have their name on them.  Hercules was another manufacturer.  I'll have to compare the photos with the book closer this weekend.

 

Mohawk64,

Please do start a new thread.  I have one as well, but have not found an exact ID in TGM.  I may have some references in early literature, need to check.  In the new thread, include what the markings are mine are totally wiped out.  Also what does yours look like when disassembled (is there a base or just the firing pin extending out)?  I think this is the precursor to the M29/M39 series which is the common Federal billies that are often seen.  There are two early billies mentioned in TGM, a Lawrence patent and a Rae patent.  Lawrence seems to be a longer billy.  Rae is shorter, but was battery fired.  Next came the M29.    

 

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Posted 16 March 2017 - 10:38 PM

Sherman3,
re there any other markings at all on the billy?  look closely just to make sure.  I do not see Greer listed in Tear Gas Munitions, at least not in the index.  I will have a closer look to see if this matches a pattern of billies.  Some of these were marketed by Lake Erie, although did not have their name on them.  Hercules was another manufacturer.  I'll have to compare the photos with the book closer this weekend.
 
Mohawk64,
Please do start a new thread.  I have one as well, but have not found an exact ID in TGM.  I may have some references in early literature, need to check.  In the new thread, include what the markings are mine are totally wiped out.  Also what does yours look like when disassembled (is there a base or just the firing pin extending out)?  I think this is the precursor to the M29/M39 series which is the common Federal billies that are often seen.  There are two early billies mentioned in TGM, a Lawrence patent and a Rae patent.  Lawrence seems to be a longer billy.  Rae is shorter, but was battery fired.  Next came the M29.    
 
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Sherman3,
re there any other markings at all on the billy?  look closely just to make sure.  I do not see Greer listed in Tear Gas Munitions, at least not in the index.  I will have a closer look to see if this matches a pattern of billies.  Some of these were marketed by Lake Erie, although did not have their name on them.  Hercules was another manufacturer.  I'll have to compare the photos with the book closer this weekend.
 
Mohawk64,
Please do start a new thread.  I have one as well, but have not found an exact ID in TGM.  I may have some references in early literature, need to check.  In the new thread, include what the markings are mine are totally wiped out.  Also what does yours look like when disassembled (is there a base or just the firing pin extending out)?  I think this is the precursor to the M29/M39 series which is the common Federal billies that are often seen.  There are two early billies mentioned in TGM, a Lawrence patent and a Rae patent.  Lawrence seems to be a longer billy.  Rae is shorter, but was battery fired.  Next came the M29.    
 
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Sherman3,
re there any other markings at all on the billy?  look closely just to make sure.  I do not see Greer listed in Tear Gas Munitions, at least not in the index.  I will have a closer look to see if this matches a pattern of billies.  Some of these were marketed by Lake Erie, although did not have their name on them.  Hercules was another manufacturer.  I'll have to compare the photos with the book closer this weekend.
 
Mohawk64,
Please do start a new thread.  I have one as well, but have not found an exact ID in TGM.  I may have some references in early literature, need to check.  In the new thread, include what the markings are mine are totally wiped out.  Also what does yours look like when disassembled (is there a base or just the firing pin extending out)?  I think this is the precursor to the M29/M39 series which is the common Federal billies that are often seen.  There are two early billies mentioned in TGM, a Lawrence patent and a Rae patent.  Lawrence seems to be a longer billy.  Rae is shorter, but was battery fired.  Next came the M29.    
 
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Posted 16 March 2017 - 10:53 PM

No other markings at all. Except for the night stick on the holster. Picked it up at OGCA last weekend. It is very heavy-duty and we'll made. I don't have a Swearengen book. Seems almost to heavy-duty for just teargas.

Edited by sherman3, 16 March 2017 - 10:58 PM.

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