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#1 huggytree

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Posted 17 December 2017 - 08:24 PM

I dont see it listed under the machinegun price guide...assume its too rare...curious what the price range is on these guns?

 

i dont believe ive seen one come up for sale since Sandman got his and i found out they existed

 


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Posted 17 December 2017 - 10:15 PM

I think the going price is around 25K or so.  I don't remember ever seeing one for sale before at any of the gun shows I've been to.  They aren't too common.  Parts come up on occassion, but not often.  Most people haven't a clue as to what they are, and it is a butt ugly gun.


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Posted 18 December 2017 - 10:01 AM

i like to collect unusual guns...i think it has a bit of a thompson look to it....seems like so many guns take a bit of their appearance from the thompson....

 

$25k is not a bad price for what it is.....problem is parts....mags seem to come up a few times a year....

 

wonder how many in the registry....id assume under 100.....

 

if one were to show up id be interested...if it came with a nice parts kit more so


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Posted 18 December 2017 - 03:29 PM

Most are pre May samples...
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Posted 24 December 2017 - 11:19 AM

i like to collect unusual guns...i think it has a bit of a thompson look to it....seems like so many guns take a bit of their appearance from the thompson....

 

$25k is not a bad price for what it is.....problem is parts....mags seem to come up a few times a year....

 

wonder how many in the registry....id assume under 100.....

 

if one were to show up id be interested...if it came with a nice parts kit more so

 

No real such animal as "nice" parts sets for these.

As I recall ARMEX was the one who brought in the guns out of I think it was Indonesia that were originally part of the Dutch East Indies contract before the war.

The best of those were mostly sold as Pre May samples, the rest were kitted up and were often heavily used.

There were Posties built up on the kits years ago.  WME once offered beautiful 80% receivers, understand these are not tube based guns, a bit complex receivers and the demilling was rather nasty considering the time frame as well with a missing center chunk.

 

Ugly as sin however that said they are one of the smoothest shooting SMGs of the period.

 

If anyone is looking for spares we do have one mostly complete kit that comes with extras.  Basically two complete lowers and barrels, a bolt and receiver chunks.

 

Main point of failure seems to be the extractors.  Sold several complete bolts over the past decade to folks with broken ones.

 

Magazines are a small bit more common.  Back in the 70's Numrich Arms ended up with a bunch of new old stock ones when they bought out all the obsolete parts Marlin had warehoused which included some UD42 bits.  That's the original source on those as well as the cherry shape stripped lowers that sometimes crop up at auction.


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Posted 24 December 2017 - 12:21 PM

Huggy, here is a link to the September 2017 RIA Auction for a UD42, $17,250 is the realized auction price. .
 
https://www.rockisla...-defense-ud-m42
 
I forgot you done buying machineguns.... :happy:

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Posted 24 December 2017 - 10:19 PM

im done with space in my vault........getting ingenious to make another 1 or 10 fit at this point

 

the FA handgun on Subguns would have fit nicely

 

id pay $15-17 for a nice UD42......a very cool gun in my opinion....i think under priced for what it is...it should be priced at thompson pricing....parts is what kills the gun most likely..

 

some say its ugly...i think its attractive 

 

a gun for some day in the future....if one pops up in 6 months you never know what ill do

 

thanks for showing the auction....gives me a good feel for what you can get for the $$


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Posted 30 December 2017 - 05:37 PM

I paid 10k for a UD 42 about 20 years ago, 25k is probably a good price today. As mentioned, spare parts are nearly impossible to find, mags are expensive. However, I found a complete lower at SAR West for $275, of course, I bought it.

Shortly after I bought the gun I found a cache of 25 original magazines in an ad in the old Shotgun News. It was a gun shop in AZ that was going out of business, I bought all of them for $15.00 each. Some were new in the box. I sold most of the mags kept what I needed.  

 

Very nice SMG to shoot, smooth and quite accurate due to its weight. There are transferable UDs out there just be vigilant. When looking for "the" right machine gun, patience is  a virtue, cash a necessity.

 

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Posted 31 December 2017 - 09:06 AM

Still hoping to stumble on a de-watt UD42. These were advertised for 49.99 in the md-sixties. Maybe that is where the few lowers and other parts come from. De-watted UD42s that were never registered during the amnesty.
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Posted 01 January 2018 - 10:43 PM

We used to have one as a Pre May. Had a chance to purchase a transferable at the same time as a package deal. Oh well. The Pre May eventually went as part of a trade to Dan Shea for his reference library.

 

Purchased some double magazines from Frank Iannamico years ago. Great shooter. Good luck in the search...

 

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 06:59 PM

its a long term search...if one comes up in nice shape for a fair price i may be interested.....also looking for full auto broom handle too....something different


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Posted 02 January 2018 - 09:09 PM

Good luck with that.  Finding a nice one takes a lot of time and pre-mays far outnumber transferables, and even those don't show up often.   I waited over a year in line for this one, but I've not seen a package like this ever offered for sale with a stock like that.

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 09:20 PM

not in any hurry....ive never seen either for sale....but seeing that FA pocket pistol recently listed made me think about it......

 

ive really got every category of gun covered...im just reaching for odd things at this point to spend future money........hopefully new Mac uppers will continue and give me new things to collect...

 

Awesome broom handle by the way....im told they come up 2-3x a year for approx $15k...i have yet to notice one come up though....but i have not focused on them....


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Posted 03 January 2018 - 08:36 PM

Years ago at Knob Creek there was a table full of transferable UD42s with "Property of the Berkley Police Department" decals on the stocks. 


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Posted 04 January 2018 - 01:16 PM

now your just teasing me :angry2:


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Posted 15 January 2018 - 04:45 PM

>Years ago at Knob Creek there was a table full of transferable UD42s with "Property of the Berkley Police Department" decals on the stocks.<

I bought two out of that lot and still have them. I understood at the time that the guns were from the Berkeley, WV PD.
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Posted 17 March 2018 - 06:41 AM

Every time Bob posts, I just get depressed. Lol!
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