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#1 michaelkih

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Posted 27 October 2014 - 10:25 PM

This gun has quite the story, and it's early life was obviously not easy.  It is covered in patina with 0% rust though, and 100% perfect and shiny mint internals.  Runs like a sewing machine.  It is all matching, even the wooden stock.  This is exactly what I want my WW2 guns to be like.  I love this gun, and if only this gun could talk!  What do you guys think?

 

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#2 Robert Henley

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Posted 28 October 2014 - 04:33 AM

Looks good.  I'll have to check out the video.


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Posted 28 October 2014 - 06:49 AM

Michael
Excellent photos and good video.
It's really neat how old guns like yours makes you wonder about their past.

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#4 RoscoeTurner

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Posted 28 October 2014 - 08:27 AM

What battlefield was it picked up from?  Do you have any documentation?


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#5 michaelkih

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Posted 28 October 2014 - 11:25 AM

No documentation.  Just the original 1968 amnesty papers.  I bought it through a dealer from the family of the man who bought it from his older friend in the 60s who brought it back from WW2.  So the stories that go with the gun may be true, or complete BS.  Take them for what they are worth.....interesting, but nothing really to back it up.  I like to believe it though :)  I only recently managed to find the ORIGINAL owners family and was able to talk to them.  The wife is still alive, so here it goes..... 

 

Supposedly, it was picked up off of a dead Nazi soldier along with a British Sten soon after "crossing the rine" during the last year of the war.  I like WW2 stuff, but don't know much about it, so maybe you guys can help.  They were believed to be that Nazi soldier's trophies before he was killed by the GI who brought these back.  It makes sense b/c I do know that at the end of the war, German soldiers were using PPSH and Sten guns quite a bit.  Anyways, once he had these guns, he snuck them back to the US (No GI papers), and they remained undocumented.  Then they were sold to his younger friend for "somewhere around $50" in 1963, then that friend registered them during the 1968 amnesty.  (I still have these original amnesty papers).  Sadly, the GI passed away a while ago, and the younger friend just passed away as well, so these guns were up for sale, and a dealer handled the deal to go from them to me.  Once I got them, from the original amnesty papers, I was able to track down the family that the dealer got these from, then through them, I was able to track down the wife of the GI who brought these back, and she is who I got these stories from.  What a firecracker she is.  Once again, these stories are 70 years old, and the man who would know the truth exactly passed away a while ago, so take them for what it's worth.  She explained this stuff to me over the phone, and she agreed to write them down for me in as much detail as she knows (He did not talk much about the war, but she forced him to explain to her how he had these "illegal guns"), and have her daughter mail it back to me, which I am looking forward to. 

 

Anyways, I hope that helps you guys out.  Is it true?  Who knows, but I'd like to think so.  Once again.....if only this gun could talk.


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Posted 28 October 2014 - 11:56 AM

Yeah, sounds like a good story.
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Posted 28 October 2014 - 07:07 PM

Hi Michelkih,

 

Very nice.  Being Russian, I'm sure the gun is actually in 100% finish :)

 

Seriously, most of them I've seen that have not been refinished look like yours.  I've got one just like it but not quite as nice.  What amazes me about the ppsh is how thick the "sheet metal" is on the barrel shroud.  If you run out of ammo you can beat your attacker with it.

 

On a serious note, does anyone think that at some point the Russians just used hot roll steel and didn't finish the guns?  I wasn't kidding when I said I've seen quite a few that look mottled.

 

Thanks for sharing the pictures & story.

 

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Edited by Grasshopper, 28 October 2014 - 07:09 PM.

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#8 Roland the Thompsongunner

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Posted 31 October 2014 - 01:01 PM

Thanks for sharing the pictures. The ppsh41 is my favorite subgun. I have a 43 dated one. They are a blast to shoot. Mine was amnesty registered too but i have no idea where it came from. Would love to know the story on it.
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Posted 09 November 2014 - 09:44 AM

The finish on the Russian PPSH is indeed a brown, rust blueing like.  Sharing some close up photos of my 1941 or nearly at the start of production gun.  Note the rear ladder sight and front protected sight hood.  I bought this gun directly from a Korean War Vet, who has since passed away, and he picked it up at the battle of Pork Chop HIll.

 

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#10 michaelkih

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Posted 09 November 2014 - 01:02 PM

Lzxray, that is VERY nice looking!


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Posted 11 November 2014 - 06:27 AM

Nice piece, hope you were able to score some 7.62X25 when it was reasonable.  It isn't anymore and one needs to load for it now. 


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#12 michaelkih

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Posted 11 November 2014 - 10:24 PM

smkummer.  Nope, I just started buying it now unfortunately.  I bought several thousand rounds of S&B though recently, and it'll probably last me a lifetime.


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Posted 11 November 2014 - 10:54 PM

Thanks guys.  Commercial ammo is more readlily available now, and I have seen prices on the milsurp dropping a bit.  Bought all the Yugo that I need a while back.  Looking for a 9mm conversion to play with at some point.


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Posted 02 October 2015 - 05:56 PM

Any idea what a PPsh41 is going for these days. I may have a chance at one, the condition [from a photo] appears to be like one started by " michaelihl" sp?


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Posted 09 October 2015 - 10:16 PM

SEWWT !  AS INDICATED, IT RUNS LIKE A SEWING MACHINE....! ! NICE PIECE.


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