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You'd think they'd be pointing out the too many to count failures of the BCSO and FBI, and the deputy who stood outside while the shooting was going on:

 

https://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/nation/2018/03/15/parkland-video-shows-deputy-stayed-outside-long-after-shooting/32964211/

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/03/15/parkland-surveillance-video-shows-officer-standing-outside-school-during-shooting/428147002/

 

Or perhaps a report on the agreement between the BCSO and others in which they agreed not to arrest troubled students (an Obama era policy):

 

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/03/parkland-shooting-school-discipline-policies-limited-law-enforcement-involvement-with-students/

 

The signed agreement is on-line. Not much in the mainstream news about these failures.

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A slippery slope, look at the history of gun ownership in the UK:

 

 

Reply removed by myself to avoid offending people, which was not my intention.

Stay safe

Richard

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When you have parents who want to make sure that every kid gets a trophy, and these gamer nut jobs play games that emmulate killing people, aka, points or trophies, then some will want to step it up and get their trophy.
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not sure how a semi auto AR15 is the modern day equivalent to a Thompson.......millions of AR's in this country ...how many thompsons were in the general publics hands in 1934? 500?

 

people need to stop blurring the lines between a machine gun and the AR 15.....also stop calling the ar-15 a high power gun.......its a .22!!! a fast .22....but its not a 30-06 or a 7mm magnum....its a pea shooter by comparison good for shooting coyotes and ground hogs

 

watching fox new the AR is called an assault weapon 100% of the time...i can tell not 1 reporter owns one by the mistakes they make....im sure on the more liberal news channels its much worse..

 

every reporter should buy and fire an AR and get educated on what it is

 

also i stil have yet to see one mention of the shooter using 10 round mags....i believe this IS the case!!!!...no 30 round mags were used

 

 

my response to any new gun control--- NOT ONE INCH!

 

for those waiting for suppressors to be off the NFA list....any of you think thats coming in our generation?

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A well written, but still uninformed person speaking their mind. The youth on the other hand are even more uninformed and can not articulate their own thoughts. I do like the comparison of the Thomspon to the AR15, iconic America

 

Petroleum 1 yes, his location is set to UK.

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Thanks for posting that info Richard...are you in the UK??

 

Apologise for delay in reply, I am not always online. I am British, but over the last 30+ years I have spent a lot of time aboard working, and I am currently in Spain preparing to deploy to Algeria next week.

 

A well written, but still uninformed person speaking their mind. The youth on the other hand are even more uninformed and can not articulate their own thoughts. I do like the comparison of the Thomspon to the AR15, iconic America

 

Petroleum 1 yes, his location is set to UK.

 

Speeddemon02,

My apologise if I offended you, which was not my intention and I bow to your superior knowledge of English law and history.

 

I like to study and have read a lot on the subject, as in the past UK firearms laws have impacted myself and colleagues, resulting, as law abiding citizens, having to surrender very nice collections for destruction, but I am not a lawyer nor a historian, so probably not qualified to quote such facts.

 

Stay safe

 

Richard

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Richard,

 

I believe Speeddemon02s comment was about the original news clipping not your summary of UK firearms confiscation. I would love to have your content back, unless that means typing it all over again! I only briefly read yesterday but would like to read again in more details.

 

Thank you for sharing that as its a reminder that the transformation was chipped away piece by piece over time.

 

Ron

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Richard...I agree with Ron...speeddemon was commenting about the AR and Thompson comparison in the original first post article. Your timeline post of gun control in the UK was very well written and easy to read. It is a warning to all of us in the US. I have shared your article with other people in the gun community and it has received extremely positive comments. Repost it so it will be part of this thread. thx Vin

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Yes, my first statement was about the newspaper article. I later saw the question and thought I'd jump in real quick and point it out, sorry for the confusion. I too would love to have what you put originally back.

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Richard,

 

I believe Speeddemon02s comment was about the original news clipping not your summary of UK firearms confiscation. I would love to have your content back, unless that means typing it all over again! I only briefly read yesterday but would like to read again in more details.

 

Thank you for sharing that as its a reminder that the transformation was chipped away piece by piece over time.

 

Ron

 

 

Richard...I agree with Ron...speeddemon was commenting about the AR and Thompson comparison in the original first post article. Your timeline post of gun control in the UK was very well written and easy to read. It is a warning to all of us in the US. I have shared your article with other people in the gun community and it has received extremely positive comments. Repost it so it will be part of this thread. thx Vin

 

 

Yes, my first statement was about the newspaper article. I later saw the question and thought I'd jump in real quick and point it out, sorry for the confusion. I too would love to have what you put originally back.

 

Gentlemen,

​Sorry if I jumped to the wrong conclusion from the posts, I have probably been worn down by years of political correctness in the UK and Europe, were I am often the target of criticism due to my opinions.

 

My intention was to show you how the right to bare arms in Britain has been chipped away piece by piece, in less than a century and now there are even severe restrictions on the ownership of deactivations (Dewats), with the 2017 European Firearms directive, introduced by the European Union.

 

Someone forgot to remind the politicians that the criminal use of firearms, for which most of the laws have been aimed at, is not restricted by laws & regulations. Due to the nature of the beast, they don't abide by laws, hence the expression 'outlaws'.... I guess I have become a little political now, my apologise once again....but our laws are cross party, no distinction between Labour, Conservative, or in the day Liberals, who all appear to support them.

 

Below is my original post, slightly amended, to remove most opinions.

 

The English Bill of Rights states "That the subjects which are Protestants may have arms for their defence, suitable to their condition and as allowed by law" Sir William Blackstone, commenting on this in his Commentaries on the laws of England said, "The fifth and last auxiliary RIGHT of the subject, that I shall at present mention, is that of having arms for their defence, suitable to their condition, and as allowed by law, which is also declared by the same statute IW & M ft.2c.2 and is indeed a public allowance, under due restrictions, of the natural right of resistance and self preservation, when the sanctions of society and laws are found insufficient to restrain the violence of oppression".

 

In 1900 the British government trusted the people with firearms and to be their own guardians. Prime Minister Robert Gascoyne-Cecil, the Marquess of Salisbury said he would "laud the day when there was a rifle in every cottage in England". However in 1903 Britain passed its first ever "gun control" law, a minor one requiring a permit to carry a handgun and restricting the age of purchasers. .

In 1919 the British government, in fear of communist insurgents and domestic and foreign anarchists, passed its first sweeping anti-gun laws, even though gun related crime was almost non existent in the England of the day. British subjects could now only buy a firearm if they could show "a good reason" for having one and the firearm certificate system that we have today, was introduced. The 1920 gun control act was the beginning of the end for private firearms ownership in England.

In 1936 short barrelled shotguns, (such as shot pistols used for ratting), and fully automatic firearms were outlawed. Why? Not because such firearms were ever misused but because the government dictated that civilians had "no legitimate reason" for owning them. The reasoning has now changed from the government needing to show reasons for restrictions, to the people needing to show reason to exercise their rights and the government telling them, that there is no acceptable reason.

In 1936 the government added a "safe storage" requirement on the owners of handguns and rifles to "prevent the guns falling into the wrong hands" .

Thompson history, (and other firearms). comes in here now.....as a direct consequence of the 1920 gun control act, Britain did not have "a rifle in every cottage" but they had to ask our American colleagues to send them every type of rifle and handgun at the outbreak of WWII, as well as beginning the process of purchasing large amounts of Thompsons from AOC, so the British people would have some means of defending their homes and islands against the well equipped and armed German armed forces across the English Channel. Thanks fully the Americans responded by sending every type of firearm to the unarmed and helpless people of Britain.

At the end of WW2, the British government recovered many of these weapons and a lot were dumped into the sea.

In 1946 "self defence" was no longer considered a good reason for requiring the police to issue a firearms certificate.

In 1953 carrying any type of weapon for self defence was made illegal, making the streets even safer for the criminal element.

More History, in 1967 a criminal shot at and killed three policemen in London, using a German 9mm Parabellum pistol, so the British government introduced restrictions on shotgun ownership for the very first time. Criminal use of a handgun results in shotgun licenses being issued for the first time in British history for law abiding citizens, the logic of politicians?

In 1982 black powder muzzle loader shooters and hand loaders were required to allow police inspection of their security arrangements to ensure "safe storage" of the powder they possessed, meaning that agents of the state could demand entry into an Englishman's home at any time of day or night without a warrant.

In August 1987, the UK experienced its first mass casualty shooting carried out by a civilian in Hungerford, which resulted in the introduction of the Firearms (Amendment) Act 1988. This resulted in the ownership of all semi-automatic rifles being banned, including pump action rifles. Following the introduction of the Act, it was easy for the authorities to seize any guns which were not surrendered, as they were all registered and easy to find, well at least the legally held ones were.

In 1996 following Britain's 2nd mass casualty shooting in Dunbane, (sadly carried out in a school which resulted in the deaths of 16 children and their teacher), all legally owned and registered handguns confiscated following an amendment to the firearms law banning them. Also in 1996 carrying any knife with a blade longer than 3 inches was made illegal. Presumably one cannot stab someone to death with a three inch knife. Following the introduction of this law, you now had to show "good reason" for carrying a knife, the presumption of innocence, until proven guilty of a crime, is now absent from law.

In England today you cannot carry any type of weapon for self defence and you cannot use a firearm to defend your home, family, or property, the UK firearm and weapon laws have made crime safe for criminals.

In 2006 the government passed the Violent Crime Reduction Act. The VCRA restricted all "realistic" toy/replica guns, so British citizens are not even trusted with imitation non-firing replicas now. "Violent crime reduction" was once again used as the smokescreen to deprive the law abiding citizens of their property. As part of the VCRA an airgun can no longer be purchased by mail order and the name and address of the purchaser must be registered with the seller.

​Stay safe

​Richard

 

 

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Good post, Richard. You my have noticed similar attempts here in the US:

 

More History, in 1967 a criminal shot at and killed three policemen in London, using a German 9mm Parabellum pistol, so the British government introduced restrictions on shotgun ownership for the very first time. Criminal use of a handgun results in shotgun licenses being issued for the first time in British history for law abiding citizens, the logic of politicians?

 

Las Vegas brought "bump stocks" into the vocabulary of the news media who promptly attacked silencers which had a remote possibility of semi-deregulation (not now, though). Usually we get "This would not have prevented _(crazy induced attack of the week)_ but it would be a good place to start". We are not supposed to bring up our culture which has cheapened life, government encouragement of broken families, allowing people to walk the streets that in decades gone by had been confined, or any other more difficult challenges.

 

I arrived in England March, 1989 roughly a year after your government banned semi-autos and gradually learned by bits the restrictions placed on you which continued to grow after my departure in 1992.

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Good post, Richard. You my have noticed similar attempts here in the US:

 

More History, in 1967 a criminal shot at and killed three policemen in London, using a German 9mm Parabellum pistol, so the British government introduced restrictions on shotgun ownership for the very first time. Criminal use of a handgun results in shotgun licenses being issued for the first time in British history for law abiding citizens, the logic of politicians?

 

Las Vegas brought "bump stocks" into the vocabulary of the news media who promptly attacked silencers which had a remote possibility of semi-deregulation (not now, though). Usually we get "This would not have prevented _(crazy induced attack of the week)_ but it would be a good place to start". We are not supposed to bring up our culture which has cheapened life, government encouragement of broken families, allowing people to walk the streets that in decades gone by had been confined, or any other more difficult challenges.

 

I arrived in England March, 1989 roughly a year after your government banned semi-autos and gradually learned by bits the restrictions placed on you which continued to grow after my departure in 1992.

 

Thanks

Initially I departed England in 1984 and returned for a short spell in 1990.... now I spend on average between 2 & 3 months a year in the UK, due to work commitments and preferring warm weather locations for my field breaks. I guess one day I'll be spending more time in the cold, suffering the incessant political correctness we now face in the UK.

Tomorrow I start my journey to North Africa for a 4 week trip, and unable to access the forum during that period, so I will be looking forward to catching up when I return to Europe in April.

Stay safe

Richard

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