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#1 Gunner

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Posted 13 August 2019 - 01:21 PM

Don't know if this is the right spot to post this or not, but here goes:  As you know, there are various "High Capacity Mag Ban" proposals from Democratic presidential candidates and others.  Would these carve out NFA mags, such as 20, 30, 50 & 100 round Thompson mags, or would they be treated the same as AR-15 mags? Some of the tougher proposals go beyond just banning new production, but require them to be surrendered, which would leave us with some inoperable Thompsons.


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#2 RoscoeTurner

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Posted 13 August 2019 - 02:25 PM

Hard to predict the future of proposals that have not been offered  for a vote as legislative bills.


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#3 laurencen

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Posted 13 August 2019 - 03:57 PM

if they adopt the same rules here in Canada all mags have to be pinned at 5 rounds, the 50 and 100 round Thompson drums they put a pop rivet in the channel, you can put 50 in the drum but after 5 no more can feed past the rivet, 30 round mags we pin in the first hole, I believe it is then 3 rounds but that's how we do it. 


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#4 jim c 351

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Posted 13 August 2019 - 06:36 PM

One of the hardest things to predict is the future.

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#5 2ndArmored

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Posted 13 August 2019 - 07:00 PM

In 1989, Calif banned the importation, sale, etc. of any magazine with a capacity over 10 rounds.  However those already in the state could be kept by the owner until death (i.e. they couldn't be sold, traded, willed, to any other Calif resident).  MG links could be connected only to a max of 10. 

 

Then Proposition 63 was passed.  It added "possession" to the list of forbidden verbs.  Although there were 10-rd magazines for the AR, Thompson, M1 carbine, etc made during the nationwide "AW/mag ban", others were not (e.g. the BAR, Reising, etc.)  So STEN mags had to be permanently altered to take only 10 rounds or surrendered to L.E. or destroyed in a manner determined by the State.  Some read the law to mean "Once a 30-rd, always a 30-rd", so even welding a denial bar wasn't good enough.  All STEN mags must die.  But you can still enjoy your expensive British-made paperweight/nutcracker.

 

Given that Calif is held up as the Gold Standard for a gun control utopia, expect that any Democrat promoting "reasonable gun safety legislation" will seek likewise.


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Posted 13 August 2019 - 07:28 PM

Of course in CA, mags of any capacity used in a weapon with a pistol-grip can't be "removeable" making pracital use of a Thompson here a moot point....Phil


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Posted 13 August 2019 - 07:46 PM

20, 30, 50 & 100 round Thompson mags aren't "high capacity." They are standard for the platform.

Where do they come up with these ridiculous ideas?


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Posted 13 August 2019 - 09:06 PM

all the gun control is unconstitutional so do not comply if it does pass 


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#9 michaelkih

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Posted 13 August 2019 - 10:13 PM

I hate it when people post these questions. The answer is that no one knows.

Also, if it comes to that, are you going to turn anything in? Im not, and Im sure most wont as well. Gonna just keep enjoying life.
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Posted 13 August 2019 - 10:32 PM

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Posted 13 August 2019 - 10:40 PM

Of course in CA, mags of any capacity used in a weapon with a pistol-grip can't be "removeable" making pracital use of a Thompson here a moot point....Phil

 

True, but the BAR, STEN, and M1 & M2 carbines (w/o bayo lug) are all free of that offending feature, yet their owners are still in a bind.


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Posted 13 August 2019 - 10:42 PM

20, 30, 50 & 100 round Thompson mags aren't "high capacity." They are standard for the platform.

Where do they come up with these ridiculous ideas?

 

Fear and ignorance are powerful motivators.


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#13 mnshooter

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Posted 14 August 2019 - 09:52 AM

One of the hardest things to predict is the future.

Jim C

 

I knew you'd say that. :rolleyes:


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#14 huggytree

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Posted 14 August 2019 - 10:39 AM

odds are any ban would be future sales and grandfathering old mags.

 

id be surprised if they confiscate 20,000,000 ar-15 mags

 

if you own private land i doubt they will come to get you when you shoot

 

they will be arresting millions of gun owners who wont comply

 

i would not want to be the police officer knocking on doors to take the mags or ar-15s back


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Posted 14 August 2019 - 11:05 AM

They can't take care of a couple hundred thousand unarmed border Jumpers.And we are supposed to be worried about bans and door to door.A few shootouts here and there and its  all a cluster fwuck. They can't even control Chicahoe!

 

And somehow overnight they will control tens of Millions of gun owners.And get their stuff controlled.Ten hill billys with Bolt actions will turn off the power grid, And mess up the fuel and food chain. See how that works out.

 

How did Iraq the Nam, and Afghanistan work out for us? Enjoy what you do and have fun.

 

Alien saviors will be here soon....ya know the ones who built the pyramids to square it all away. Or the Airport protesters.

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Posted 14 August 2019 - 12:09 PM

odds are any ban would be future sales and grandfathering old mags.

 

id be surprised if they confiscate 20,000,000 ar-15 mags

 

if you own private land i doubt they will come to get you when you shoot

 

they will be arresting millions of gun owners who wont comply

 

i would not want to be the police officer knocking on doors to take the mags or ar-15s back

 

"Take Back" implies prior ownership

 

please don't use these terms


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Posted 14 August 2019 - 12:14 PM

They can't take care of a couple hundred thousand unarmed border Jumpers.And we are supposed to be worried about bans and door to door.A few shootouts here and there and its  all a cluster fwuck. They can't even control Chicahoe!

 

And somehow overnight they will control tens of Millions of gun owners.And get their stuff controlled.Ten hill billys with Bolt actions will turn off the power grid, And mess up the fuel and food chain. See how that works out.

 

How did Iraq the Nam, and Afghanistan work out for us? Enjoy what you do and have fun.

 

Alien saviors will be here soon....ya know the ones who built the pyramids to square it all away. Or the Airport protesters.

Ron

I like your style, Sir.


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Posted 14 August 2019 - 10:37 PM

One poster here ‘hates it’ when threads like this are put up. Others say the future is unknown so why bother. Don’t worry, be happy. I started a similar thread a few days ago (Future NFA mag ban), wondering if the NFA community should somehow collectively make our concerns heard. I really think the political and cultural climate is ripe for at least a mag ban. One can hope for grandfathering, but look what was done with bump stocks? Imagine tasking ATF with building a registration scheme for pre-Jan 1, 2020 mags, belts, drums, etc. Even if mags were grandfathered, they would certainly be nontransferable: you can keep yours, but once you pass on, mags must be destroyed.
Needless to say, the NFA MG market will implode. Those with ample private land may keep shooting, but most of us who go to ranges won’t risk an encounter with LE in the next stall. Will make for lame Knob Creek or Big Sandy shoots. My point is, we can’t be sanguine or put our heads in the sand.
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Posted 15 August 2019 - 01:09 PM

Many will probably be stashed away with  unregistered FA items! :ph34r:


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Posted 15 August 2019 - 03:42 PM

Many will probably be stashed away with  unregistered FA items! :ph34r:

You are probably right but it is the same line of thinking people use when the talk about a total gun ban saying "they will never get my guns I will hide them or bury them". That's all well and good but the only use you will have for that gun then is to shoot yourself with it. I want the freedom to enjoy the firearms and magazines I have, not have them hidden and afraid to let them see the light of day. 


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