I was scammed out of $15 for a Rahseed magazine that I paid for using PP gift. PP told me there were no protections of any kind when PP gift is used. They did not go after the scammer. Never again.
It wasn't a gift- it was a PURCHASE.
Like I said- everybody wants to screw Paypal out of their fees.
Yep straight truth that.
Now on to the points others have made:
Paypal is no more "Antigun" than S&W, Colt and Ruger have been in the past
Smith was once a huge advocate of mandatory Registrion
Both Smith & Colt were well invested in the bogus Smart Gun idiocy
Ruger used to be the worst when Bill was still at the helm. He pretty much established the 10 round mag limit and much of the feature list on what civilians don't need.
Paypal and Ebay went goofy under pressure from the government and their lawyers liability concerns. Both relaxed policy quite a bit.
I detest selling on GunJoker
plenty of Clowns who want to negotiate post purchase particularly on larger ticket items
I know a gun show vendor who brags about doing this to people. He targets new sellers hard, buys things then whines hard to get up to 20% refunds
that venue is a Den of Vipers
Here's what actually happened. You busted yourself cheating the paypal model
F&F Gift is ONLY to be used for Gifts
I'm just shocked they didn't kill both sides accounts as both made it clear they violated the TOS agreement
As it is as the seller they are spanking you over being cheap and cheating them out of their cut buddy.
So how to avoid all this ?
1st thing you NEVER tie PP to a main account
Establish an account at a bank you do no other business with and keep a very very small sum in it. Credit Unions are good for this
Do not transfer PP balances into this account, obtain a PP debit card and take it out via ATM
Someone starts acting funky raising the spider sense call the bank and have them disable all electronic transfer access to said account pronto.
Yeah this means you lose on the ATM withdrawl and you have to hit the bank to deposit pre PP transfer but otherwise they can snag you up
Another thing, when you tie a card to PP disable it quickly and have a new one issued
I dislike Friends & Family Gifting
1st off if you are using it against a purchase you are being a cheat. I don't see much different in that than going through the self service lane at a supermarket and not scanning some things in your cart.
I charge 3.5% add on and do things as a standard purchase
Now even that is afoul of PP TOS but they don't really care too much as they are still getting their cut.
As the seller PP views you as the problem at this point huggy. We all know you are a great guy but in this case they are correct
you reached your hand in their pocket stealing nickels & dimes
brother it's not worth it.
I also chuckle when folks have a problem with paypal and try to resolve it via email
Almost all of that is answered by a calling center in India...sigh
Everything is always canned responses based on corporate script
To get things done somewhat you call mid morning. You usually reach the US offices then you will need to escalate up to management
figure an easy minimum of an hour on the phone telling and retelling your issue then demanding to speak to a supervisor before you start to get anywhere.
All email does is divert you to an overseas answering center, might be one American managing the operation. Often not even that huggy
I have used the service for roughly twenty years now
registered late 99' as an easier method to run overseas transfers
yeah had some issues over the past two decades, everyone was eventually resolved to my credit & satisfaction.
early 2000s had scammers claim they never received product
well I had slips and pix of the parcel as well as proof of delivery
claims dropped, other parties accounts closed
Frankly to be honest with you I have had more money order games than issues ever with PP
my suggestion, you won't like it either but to just pay up your Idiot Tax after ratting your own self out trying to game their system
I get it, I really do huggy but PP is a for profit.
You want to send the niece a Gift for her birthday or boyfriends bail...that's what it's there for dude
not paying even friends/family for Goods & Services money due.
Edited by JimB, 11 March 2019 - 03:17 PM.