Will an Auto Ordnance 10 round drum winder work in a 50 rd drum ?

[lightguy]

The winder in a Bridgeport 50 round drum is kaput; no spring so was looking to replace it with an aftermarket winder.
I was waiting for the Sarco 50 round drums to come up for a great price again but looks like they wont.

May be able to score a 10 mag for a good price IF the winder works.

Any idea ?

[TSMG28]

Forget the rotors in the X-drums. Their springs were not design for an L-drum. They were designed to wind only 4 to 6 clicks, and all of the West Hurley and early Kahr springs are known to be underpowered.

 

Just pic up a new Taiwan drum from GPC. You can use it as it is, or put the rotor into your Bridgeport shell to maintain external appearances.

[emmagee1917]

He said winder , not rotor . I took it to mean the part you grab and turn outside of the drum .

Chris

[gijive]

He said winder , not rotor . I took it to mean the part you grab and turn outside of the drum .

Chris

Chris,

 

I thought the same thing at first, but he mentions "no spring", so I believe most people thought was speaking about the rotor assembly, not the winding key. Maybe he can clarify what he means in another post.

[john]

Different shaft on the rotor. Bridgeport and originals take a different key. The Taiwanese will work, Kahrs and Westies will not.

Sarco usually has a few originals for $30-40 at KCR....I'd ask them first.

[TSMG28]

Lightguy,

 

I guess you need to clarify what you are looking for. The winding key does have a spring steel part of the latch, but as John mentioned, you need to make certain what key is being used. The Taiwan key should be fine, but the key from any WH or Kahr solid shaft drum will not. Both X drums used a solid rotor shaft, so no luck there in either case.

 

So.....because you have a Bridgeport drum, either the rotor or winding key from a Taiwan repro should get you back in business.

Edited August 15, 2020 by TSMG28

[lightguy]

Yes the internal spring operated rotor. Not the Winder.
like this but with the internal spring;
This is a 100 round unit at Numrich.

Is the spring itself available ?
Looks like a fairly complecated replacement if available.

It sounds like the Taiwan repo is the way to go.
Just wish Sarco ran the specials like they used to. Up to $190 now and out of stock.

Edited August 14, 2020 by lightguy

[lightguy]

Is this a Taiwan drum ?

Edited August 14, 2020 by lightguy

[TSMG28]

Light guy,

 

Yes, that is a Taiwan drum.

 

And yes, replacing the spring on an existing rotor is a complicated process that needs a lot of time and some special tools. However, it is relatively easy to replace the entire rotor assembly. Check out pages 587-590 of The Ultimate Thompson Book for the procedure.

Edited August 14, 2020 by TSMG28

[mnshooter]

Different shaft on the rotor. Bridgeport and originals take a different key. The Taiwanese will work, Kahrs and Westies will not.

Sarco usually has a few originals for $30-40 at KCR....I'd ask them first.

 

Ahh... KCR. I remember it well. A long time ago... Far, far, away...

[lightguy]

Light guy,

 

Yes, that is a Taiwan drum.

 

And yes, replacing the spring on an existing rotor is a complicated process that needs a lot of time and some special tools. However, it is relatively easy to replace the entire rotor assembly. Check out pages 587-590 of The Ultimate Thompson Book for the procedure.

Thanks.