gijive Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 All, I have put together a photographic comparison of some of the subtle differences between the original Colt vertical grips and the WWII Savage vertical grips. This should help members distinguish between the two in photographs or help in determining a real grip from a reproduction. Savage grip on left, Colt grip on right. Savage grip on left, Colt grip on right. Grip mount channels. Savage "S" mark in grip mount channel. Savage grip slightly longer than Colt grip. Colt grip. Savage grip. Colt grip. Savage grip. Colt grip. Savage grip. Colt grip. Savage grip. Savage left, Colt right. Savage grip. Colt grip. Savage grip. Colt grip. Savage left, Colt right. Savage grip. Colt grip. Hope this helps the new collectors as well as the older ones. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrylta Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 This thread should be included in the pinned topics section for sure!Great job Chuck,Darryl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridgeport28A1 Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 Chuck, thank you for posting the vertical grip comparisons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banjo Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 Very well done sir!!! I have seen several comparisons where the Colt was authentic but the Savage was not. You are spot on thanks this really helps those of us obsessed with finding the elusive Savage grip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppgcowboy Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 This is a great resource. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hntrdarren Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 Great post on the vertical grips . Thanks for sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draz Posted March 6, 2017 Report Share Posted March 6, 2017 Thanks for sharing those. On a Savage produced M1A1 fore end stock any idea what an M stamp may relate to? This is on the outer of the wood facing the magazine well. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bug Posted March 6, 2017 Report Share Posted March 6, 2017 Dave, The M is for Strombeck-Becker of Moline IL. They were an official AOC supplier of WWll TSMG wood. Bob D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draz Posted March 6, 2017 Report Share Posted March 6, 2017 Thanks Bob, I'd been meaning to ask for a while. Going to take a good closer look at other parts for markings. Plenty of Savage marks & Savage-Stevens barrel, plus P proof & FJA plus GEG marks etc. Thanks for the info. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adg105200 Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 Thanks for sharing those.On a Savage produced M1A1 fore end stock any idea what an M stamp may relate to? This is on the outer of the wood facing the magazine well. DaveA very good book with a comprehensive list of parts and their makers (among other great info) is: American Thunder III by Frank Iannamico. I'm guessing that you don't already have it. It's $40 on Amazon and worth every penny. I'm fairly new to the Thompson world too and that was the first book I bought. Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draz Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 Hi Andrew, no I don't have plus I'm in the UK so unable to order direct. Unavailable currently via Amazon but will keep an eye on stock via US listings for UK shipping. The UK Amazon don't even list it either! Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin601 Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 Thanks , interesting. Has the colt been stripped or refinished. I am amazed by the sap wood content of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gijive Posted March 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 Paladin. I've only seen a couple of others with the lighter wood highlights present. The grip has not been stripped, just cleaned and treated with Boiled LInseed Oil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin601 Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 were there different grades of the 21 Thompson, say comercial or professional (for police, feds, etc) ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron_brock Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 were there different grades of the 21 Thompson, say comercial or professional (for police, feds, etc) ?Nope, they were all high grade guns. Yes there were some guns that were presented to employees, but they are very similar to production guns save the engraving. Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin601 Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 were there different grades of the 21 Thompson, say comercial or professional (for police, feds, etc) ?Nope, they were all high grade guns. Yes there were some guns that were presented to employees, but they are very similar to production guns save the engraving. Ron Thanks Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin601 Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 Paladin. I've only seen a couple of others with the lighter wood highlights present. The grip has not been stripped, just cleaned and treated with Boiled LInseed Oil.Thanks gijive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gijive Posted March 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 Paladin. I've only seen a couple of others with the lighter wood highlights present. The grip has not been stripped, just cleaned and treated with Boiled LInseed Oil.Thanks gijivePaladin601, The grip is not quite as yellow as it appears in the photos, there is more of an amber color to the light highlights. I was using strong natural sunlight and you can see it was illuminated from the right side of the picture. This contributed somewhat to the light appearance of the wood. I can post some additional pictures of the varying color of the wood on original Colt grips if you are interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin601 Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 Paladin. I've only seen a couple of others with the lighter wood highlights present. The grip has not been stripped, just cleaned and treated with Boiled LInseed Oil.Thanks gijivePaladin601, The grip is not quite as yellow as it appears in the photos, there is more of an amber color to the light highlights. I was using strong natural sunlight and you can see it was illuminated from the right side of the picture. This contributed somewhat to the light appearance of the wood. I can post some additional pictures of the varying color of the wood on original Colt grips if you are interested.Thanks, not necessary. I got out some my old stocks and noticed the same think on them, and they are heart wood as well. I guess there are a lot of things that change the appearance,, lighting, cameras white balance and my monitors settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron_brock Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 Yeah, I have seen this grip in person and it is simply beautiful. Certainly gijive got a great deal on this sleeper Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD. Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 A excellent treatise by gijive! Agree with Darrylta - penned reference section material. Chuck normally attends one of the yearly Thompson Show and Shoots in Ohio. Perhaps we could talk him into bringing his fore grips and comparing with grips of an uncertain pedigree. This would make for an interesting show and tell session. I may try to slip in one of my deerslayer grips just to see how close Dan came to copying the original Colt grip 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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