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#1 DGinGA

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Posted 09 August 2019 - 01:03 PM

When a mass shooting occurs, the calls to do something are heard. My sense is that this time, election and all, something will be done - a high capacity magazine ban (along with more Red Flag laws and universal background checks). Politically that is low hanging fruit; gun owners and the NRA will complain, but the visual of an AK or AR platform rifle with a 100 round drum juxtaposed with grieving people in affected cities will push it through. Given Trumps action on bump stocks, in a close election its not hard to see him sign it. Most gun owners dont feel strongly about this.
My fear is magazines and belts for MGs wont be exempted. Or only those possessed before passage can be kept (needless to say after being registered) but not transferred. This will collapse the MG market - have fun shooting your MG 42 with a six inch 10 round belt, or 1921 Thompson with a 10 round drum. The NFA world is small, politically inconsequential, and slightly suspect anyway, acceptable collateral damage.
Should we join or form a national organization to at least make our concerns known?
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#2 RoscoeTurner

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Posted 09 August 2019 - 01:50 PM

The NRA stuck it up NFA owers rear ends in 1986, I certainly would not look in their direction for any help.


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Posted 09 August 2019 - 02:44 PM

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#4 johnsonlmg41

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Posted 09 August 2019 - 08:33 PM

I posted this on another forum in response to a similar question re: background checks.

 

 

"I have a better idea. How about no fees and no background checks. You put a note on every felons ID that they are a convicted felon. Problem solved and the rest of us go on about our business doing all things legal without hassles. This method saves everyone a lot time including cops on stops who often let crooks go because the info they need isn't readily available at all times. If it says your a pedophile on your ID and you're at the swingset in the park, you don't pass go.

You've bought into the liberal idea that we have to "prove our innocence" every time we wish to conduct a legal transaction between parties. That's crap and is solely meant to discourage us from engaging in our hobbies and business'. This is how communist's operate."

 

 

If this whole concept is not reversed soon to what I outlined we will have a serious problem.


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Posted 10 August 2019 - 05:35 AM

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33 years and counting on the promises made by the NRA in 1986 to remove the Hughes Amendment they helped to pass by their assurances made to Reagan to fight for the appeal of if he would sign the FOPA.  You can thank LaPeirre for that one.

 

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Posted 13 August 2019 - 09:05 AM

There's just been too much blood shed. I think we're going to lose this one in a big way. Look for a new AWB that doesn't sunset, along with bans on high capacity mags. We've already seen this kind of legislation introduced in the US house. The difference between these more recent bills and the original bans is that the new efforts are far more concise and better researched. It's clear that these bills were written by experts with plenty of backing. There are no more unintentional loopholes. All of the hardware is mentioned by name and manufacturer. I'd be surprised if any automatic that'll accept a high capacity mag will be grandfathered, or high cap magazines, either. Or formerly military surplus ammunition. Maybe they'll let me keep my old five shot 98K.  


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Posted 13 August 2019 - 12:27 PM

There's just been too much blood shed. I think we're going to lose this one in a big way. Look for a new AWB that doesn't sunset, along with bans on high capacity mags. We've already seen this kind of legislation introduced in the US house. The difference between these more recent bills and the original bans is that the new efforts are far more concise and better researched. It's clear that these bills were written by experts with plenty of backing. There are no more unintentional loopholes. All of the hardware is mentioned by name and manufacturer. I'd be surprised if any automatic that'll accept a high capacity mag will be grandfathered, or high cap magazines, either. Or formerly military surplus ammunition. Maybe they'll let me keep my old five shot 98K.  

I think the only research that has been done is how to play upon people's fears ... "Never let a crisis go to waste" This has reached a point of mass hysteria, and one more incident (except any weekend in Chicago) will probably lead to some poorly thought out, immediate heavy handed legislation. To illustrate how people speak in ignorance I recently had someone chastise me for being a firearms collector by saying to me ... "Why don't you just be a classic car collector? ... Cars never killed anyone!" ... This is the kind of ignorance and hysteria we face.


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