Need mp40 resting bar pin

[imageaudio]

I have an MP40 and already have the resting bar but just need the pin that holds it in place.

 

Could not find one on APEX. Perhaps I missed it?

 

Would anyone have a source or simply the dimensions so I can manufacture one?

Edited August 17, 2020 by imageaudio

[Black River Militaria CII]

Www.bergflak.com, make one or have a shop make one.....

They are the same as others on the gun but just shorter.

[TSMGguy]

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Edited August 19, 2020 by TSMGguy

[RoscoeTurner]

I talk with Reidar (Bergflak) on a daily basis, I will ask if he has the pins.

Update -

"the rolled pins are postwar, the milled ones are ww2.. I have the milled ones, might have some rolled pins"

His email address is on his website - bergflak.com

[Black River Militaria CII]

Bergflak was not running his parts business for quite a few months but he is back in business now with new inventory of MP40 parts.

As you can see by looking at the pins in your gun, all pins are center bored about 1/8th of an inch on each end. When the pin is installed, the off side is supported and the opposite center bore is FLARED with a conical drift and is NOT peened. The other end is then flared treated the same way. There is a significant difference between flaring and peening. FWIW

[imageaudio]

Thanks guys. hmmmm, never thought about a roll pin? Would be an easy solution but not original which is ultimately what I would like. But I'm not a gun smith and the roll pin would be an easy install. I don't want to mess this gun up. This gun is one of my top 3 in my collection. It is an original slab sided ERMA 1940 manufacture captured in Western Europe in 1944. I purchased this mp40 from Rock Island Auction but the original owner was a WW2 vet who gave it to his son who sold it in the auction. I have the entire paper trail from amnesty registration to me with full names, signatures, etc. Just the WW2 vet, his son, RIAC and then me.

 

Question. The original pin is still in place so guessing it had a bakelite resting bar, or perhaps not one at all? It has a forced matched upper and lower with the correct Waffen Amt marks so the thought is that it went through some type of rebuild prior to being captured in 1944. This model was originally supposed to have an aluminum resting bar so thinking perhaps a bakelite bar was installed after the rebuild which ultimately cracked and fell out at some point as the pin which is still installed is flared like Black River Militaria mentioned above. I'm stuck wondering if I should leave the original pin in place and run it without a resting bar as this is part of the history?

 

If I were to remove the pin, any way to save the pin or would I need to drill it out?

And then during install, would I use a center punch aligned directly in the center of the pin to flare a new install? Or perhaps use a roll pin starter punch? Guessing I'm trying to flare rather than mushroom but I'm not that experienced.

 

I'm posting pictures so future readers can see the pins we are discussing. Wish the bluing on the gun was in better shape too but I've kept it original as I obtained it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Petroleum 1]

Hmmm...if this was my gun and completely all original from WW2 i would leave that pin alone. I doubt you or anyone else could do it justice and make it look like that after the repair. I would find a vintage alum resting bar and cut a slot in the hole so it slides over the existing pin. Put a swipe of epoxy on it and be done with it. just my 2 cents

[imageaudio]

Just located this information on missing Resting Bars (barrel protectors) on the excellent website: https://www.mp40.nl/

 

I'd credit the web author but don't actually see any individual identified on the site. Perhaps someone can add the proper citation?

 

 

Edited August 25, 2020 by imageaudio

[Black River Militaria CII]

Hmmm...if this was my gun and completely all original from WW2 i would leave that pin alone. I doubt you or anyone else could do it justice and make it look like that after the repair. I would find a vintage alum resting bar and cut a slot in the hole so it slides over the existing pin. Put a swipe of epoxy on it and be done with it. just my 2 cents

FYI, vintage, very good condition aluminum resting bars are in the plus $250 range now so, with all due respect, I'd be very sorry to hear of anyone pursuing the destruction of one and then gluing it in as you suggest in order not to disturb a crosspin. The crosspin can carefully be drifted out and and then reassembled and lightly reflared,and if done properly no one would be the wiser. Problems occur when the resting bar hole does no align correctly with both holes in the bracket which is not uncommon. Having done dozens of these, the variations in fit are quite surprising.

A repro aluminum resting bar can be assembled to the bracket so the gun is complete and if the opportunity should arise to buy a good vintage example, the repro can be removed and replaced with the vintage bar. FWIW

[Petroleum 1]

Hi Bob...i agree with you being a professional with many years of experience on these repairs but the gun owner is looking for a fix he can do himself without messing around with the originality of the piece. Sliding in a repro resting bar with some adhesive would at least make the gun look 100% and function as the original. just my 2 cents.

[huggytree]

I think 5 seconds w a punch and that pin will come out. Add a dab of blue locktite when you put it back in. I think your over thinking it.

 

Ive had mine apart multiple times and I didnt flair out any pins. Thousands of rounds through it. No pins fell out.

[TSMGguy]

I wouldn't touch the original pin. You might consider a repro bakelite resting bar from Historyarms. They're not really made of bakelite, though they look right. Notch the flange in front of the pin hole on the new resting bar so that it can be snapped over the pin with just finger pressure. Works great. These come in various colors so that you can match your other bakelite.

 

http://www.historyarms.com/rbar.html

Edited September 10, 2020 by TSMGguy