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#1 jlouis1975

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Posted 16 January 2018 - 04:17 PM

hello,

 

i am new to this forum, i live in europe, and not speakink english i use an automatic translator, excuse my spelling and my grammar...... ;-) i have a demilitarized Thompson 1928 Savage New York smooth barrel horizontal hand gard n° 72### with muzzle break.........Lyman sight.....

 

can you help me to date this TSMG;

 

Thank you in advance

 

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Posted 16 January 2018 - 04:57 PM

Circa 1939,1940. What is the serial number?


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Posted 16 January 2018 - 05:00 PM

What is the address on the right side of the receiver?  New York or Bridgeport, CT.?


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Posted 16 January 2018 - 05:21 PM

Hi jlouis1975,

I have used Google translate many times to correspond with Thompson enthusiasts overseas. Welcome to the Thompson forum.

 

I too would like to see the complete serial number along with a picture of the right side of the receiver. If the serial number is in the 72,000 serial number range, based on Savage production records your Thompson was most likely manufactured in the February 1941 time period. It appears your Thompson went through some type of rebuild or overhaul program. Many of the parts I see are not correct for that early of a Savage Thompson. Better pictures, including close-ups, will allow more information to be provided. 

 

Thanks for sharing!


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Posted 16 January 2018 - 07:02 PM

thank to you and thank to the forum  for you answers so fast.

the serial number is in 72200....the adress of the receiver is New-York

and and there is no marking flaming bomb....i would post pictures tomrow at home me it is 1:00am !!


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Posted 17 January 2018 - 07:48 AM

Riki , what do you mean by Circa?


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Posted 17 January 2018 - 09:30 AM

Riki , what do you mean by Circa?

jlouis1975,

 

Circa means approximately or of a certain era.  It is used to approximate a time frame when the exact date isn't known.


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Posted 17 January 2018 - 10:53 AM

Thank you for your help,

here are more photos, is it possible that it is a manufacture for england???


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Posted 17 January 2018 - 01:20 PM

jlouis1975,

S-72200 could very easily have been a British Ministry of Supply cash & carry purchase in 1941. There is really no way to know for sure, but that is a likely past for this Thompson gun. 

 

Thank you for the additional pictures. Given the obvious pitting, this Thompson has seen a lot of use and/or neglect in the ensuing years. It has certainly been rebuilt at least once sometime in the past. The finned barrel, non-cross bolt butt stock and milled ejector are long since gone. The fire control levers when it left the factory in America were most likely knurled. The magazine catch could easily have been the early no-hole type.

 

I am curious if it is a live gun. Or a deactivated one.


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Posted 17 January 2018 - 01:52 PM

Tom...the op used the word demilitarized Thompson. Considering hes using translator software Im guessing it means dewat
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Posted 17 January 2018 - 02:24 PM

thank you to for you answers, that's right she's deactivated one ;-(......and i use a translaton software , that breaks the language barrier !

i am verry happy to know more about this weapon , beacause i start a small callection of weapons that we served in the conflict ww2, i live in Ardenne Belgium......


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Posted 17 January 2018 - 02:36 PM

A better question, US men, is what year of deactivation it falls under. Many of these are in better condition than any American dewat.

Seems we had more fun destroying our hard work with horrible legislature.

Not that what he has matters. Dead or alive. It's a Thompson. Be happy
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Posted 17 January 2018 - 03:07 PM

No pin or pin hole in the Cutts.


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Posted 17 January 2018 - 03:26 PM

Just realized that's not an A1!

Sadly a bit pitted, but still lookin better than most! Looks like maybe a pin welded in the side of the receiver holding the bolt shut/in place?

Looks like the patent block is in the old place, scratched out.  Stock almost looks like a WH repro. very sharp edges. Maybe whoever had it last tried to customize it. Does the lower numbers match?

You should see about getting some no-hole stocks.
There's a few on GB still everyday. Sand it down and refinish if it's dinged.


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Posted 17 January 2018 - 04:41 PM

Hard to tell from this photo but maybe the crown+W is in its usual place near the ejector?


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Posted 17 January 2018 - 04:48 PM

Louis...my father visited your country in December 1944 it was an all expense paid trip by the US Army right to the front!!
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Posted 17 January 2018 - 07:14 PM

Since it is an M1928 (not an M1928A1; look closely at the last photo), would it have left the factory with a vertical foregrip, or would 1941 be too late for one to be fitted?


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Posted 18 January 2018 - 07:27 AM

hello,

 

i am new to this forum, i live in europe, and not speakink english i use an automatic translator, excuse my spelling and my grammar...... ;-) i have a demilitarized Thompson 1928 Savage New York smooth barrel horizontal hand gard n° 72### with muzzle break.........Lyman sight.....

 

can you help me to date this TSMG;

 

Thank you in advance

 

jlouis1975

Welcome to the board. The google translator is a wonderful tool. 


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Posted 18 January 2018 - 04:07 PM

petroleum 1.....

.we can never thank enough the men who have contributed to our freedom.with a friend we maintain the memory of the sacrifice, in the woods of bastogne.

 

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Posted 18 January 2018 - 05:14 PM

That's quite a photo. Thank you.

 

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