StooperZero Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 nice are you going to leave the finish as-is or go all out since it's apart? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCM Posted March 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 Thanks, just set the rivets on the grip hanger. Fit perfect no issues. Mounted the wood grip, same, fit great. Engraver Monday.I'm keeping it with the original patina as if it was made in 1934 or so. Internals seem good. A big thanks to CJL, he made this work for me. Who's next ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StooperZero Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 let me push my luck at the Sar show next weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCM Posted March 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 Just finished mine about an hour ago- Go for it, a great project. Everybody should have one- I'll post this on the Lebman thread too. OCM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCM Posted April 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 (edited) Was brought to my attention, by a Colt expert today, that the ( FBI) photo of the Lebman converted Colt 38 Super, recovered from Dillinger, in St Paul 1934, is actually a Post WWII gun, specifically 1965.A clear recent photo of this brought this to light.Whew, mine's a Colt 45 Auto. Don't have to drill out my 1933 Colt 38 Super- close ! OCM Edited June 11, 2016 by OCM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HANS Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Was brought to my attention, by a Colt expert today, that the ( FBI) photo of the Lebman converted Colt 38 Super, recovered from Dillinger, in St Paul 1934, is actually a Post WWII gun, specifically 1965.A clear recent photo of this brought this to light.Whew, mine's a Colt 45 Auto. Don't have to drill out my 1933 Colt 38 Super- close ! This one is a replica, yes. Evidence is the serial number and the 5-slot comp. The Dillinger pistol is, however, definitely a Super .38. You can plainly see that on all period photos (crimp in magazine), and we know the serial number of the Dillinger pistol -- which is for a Super .38. Also, we know the capacity of the Dillinger pistol to be 22 (it's in the Dillinger files), and there were no 22-round magazines for the .45, only for the .38. What I want to know is where all the .45-calibre Lebman conversions came from. I know of at least four (in addition to the unfinished one found on Lebman's workbench), most or all of which seem to be in the FBI collection. The Dillinger files don't mention them. One of them MIGHT be the one that Baby Face Nelson used at Little Bohemia, but the FBI would have mentioned that in the files, I think. The provenance of the other three is completely unknown. How do we even know they are Lebman conversions? Well, they all have the unique 7-slot compensator made by Lebman, and fit the overall pattern. We can't be sure, however. Cheers HANS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim c 351 Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Sandy,Well,-there have always been rumors that the FBI shot the wrong man at the Biograph. Supposedly this bothered Hoover till the day he died.This gun might show that JHD was alive and armed in 1965.On the other hand, while we are not permitted to deceive the FBI, the reverse is not true.In any case, now you will be on the lookout for a 1965 Colt for another project.Jim C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCM Posted April 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 There's a 1933 factory nickel 38 Super on the market, however the guy wants your first born male child as part of the sell. This is close to the same serial number as the one taken from JD in Tucson.My only problem is getting CJL to make a nickel plated grip hanger and nickel rivets & a nickel plated 7 slot muzzle break to be correct and convert it to a Lebman model. Oh, need a set of pearls too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim c 351 Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Sandy,If you mutilated a prewar super the Colt collectors would put a contract out on you.Jim C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCM Posted April 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Naw they are buddies of mine, they like this stuff. It's my wife I'd worry about. " you did WHAT to that expensive gun " .It's not mutilation, it's historical enhancement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCM Posted May 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 (edited) Full Auto working Colt 38 Super, converted. I think it's a mid 70s series 70 model if I'm not mistaken. A movie prop. I think it was used in Public Enemies, as the company that owns this supplied all the weapons for the movie. OCM Edited June 11, 2016 by OCM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrylta Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 (edited) I'd be interested in a Hamer "Old Lucky" replica revolver, even though I don't really care for nickeled guns.Darryl Edited May 28, 2016 by darrylta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCM Posted May 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 Never thought of that.You could probably make one- Be a project is all. toss bags of money at it. A good engraver could probably come close from photos. Bone grips as I remember. Start with a factory nickel single action Colt 45, that might be a trick.I think Hamer's sold for like 150K, this would be considerably cheaper..... I got into collecting the nickeled guns a bit, due to the fact they were a status symbol with the outlaws, like the 1933 Essex Terraplane was to the Dillinger gang. Got a picture of Barrow standing with two nickel 1911 45s, I think one or both recovered with the death car. Dillinger had the one you've seen, a nickel 38 Super taken from him at Tucson, he got from Wolf & Klar. Hamer had a couple also, but probably more of a Texas thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HANS Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 Got a picture of Barrow standing with two nickel 1911 45s, I think one or both recovered with the death car. Very interesting! Could you possibly post that for our edification? I've only seen blued M1911s in connection with the Barrows. Cheers HANS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCM Posted May 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 Page 144, Bonnie & Clyde a twenty-first-century Update, by James Knight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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