jim c 351 Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 Sandy/Darryl,FWIW. Had the Colt 38 Super at the range yesterday. A fellow member had a chronograph set up and gave me permission to test my ammo.My ammo was Fiocchi (GFL) factory ammo 129 gr FMJ.My 5 shot average was 1172 fps. Hi was 1189 and the low was 1156.There exits 9 m/m ammo that's that powerfull and + P ammo is likely more powerful.Fiocchi is probably down loading it so someone doesn't damage an old 1900 38 auto.Jim C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubguy Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 Always liked the 38 super, thanks for the real world test! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1gewehr Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 Wow! that's pretty wimpy. I pulled up some of my old velocity tests from the 1980's, and the Super Vel 112gr JHP clocked in at 1450fps. That was the only .38 Super I tested back then, so I don't know if factory ammo has gotten weaker. I suspect that it may well be true. I've still got a couple of dozen boxes of Super Vel, but I don't know if I have any .38 Super left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrylta Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 (edited) Jim,Here's some other of my Supers that you've not seen.There Colts, one with the Swartz safety.I resemble your disparaging remarks regarding the 38 Supers :-) Edited September 5, 2015 by darrylta 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim c 351 Posted September 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 Darryl,I've got nothing against Supers. I bought 2 of them this year. I'm just too embarrassed to post pictures of my shooter grade Supers after you posted pictures of such nice collector grade Supers. You have ruined my entire life. I hope your happy. My post was meant to show how wimpy the Super was loaded by that one company.Jim C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCM Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 (edited) I don't sit and fire at tarets in a cattle stall, with the rest of the geeks. Edited October 11, 2015 by OCM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim c 351 Posted September 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 Sandy,That's why we all look up to you.That looks like a typical car that went to pick up a pizza order on Saturday night in Detroit.Jim C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCM Posted September 7, 2015 Report Share Posted September 7, 2015 Prom night in Ohio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief762 Posted September 8, 2015 Report Share Posted September 8, 2015 Saturday night in Zwolle, Louisiana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCM Posted September 16, 2015 Report Share Posted September 16, 2015 Oh crap- I guess I need to sell my Colt 38 Supers. Geez. Buy some " square " pistols. Damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
levallois Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 I've fired the 1902 and 1903 Colt semi-autos in 38 acp caliber and they are a pleasure to use. Never fired a 38 super. And those that are pictured are just plain beautiful! I should save up for one but then another .351 Winchester or M1 carbine or Garand comes up for sale and the clock resets to zero again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Never judge the 38 Super by Fiocchi or Magtech ammo. IMHO, and your mileage may vary, these manufacturers load undersize 9mm (.354) bullets and use modest powder charges. In fairness their ammo will function most guns but will not turn any heads with performance. It's like hand loads which function the pistol, but do not have the expected velocity for the bullet weight and caliber. I guess they do this because there may be some 38 ACP pistols out there, or people unwisely using 38 Super in 9mm Largo guns like the Astra 400. Another reason could be fear of blown case heads, as there is an unsupported part of the case in a M1911 chamber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim c 351 Posted October 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Enforcer,While your theory on why some companies down load the 38 Super today may be correct, the Super seems to be the caliber of the past.Years ago the choice was the Super at 130 gr/1300 fps, Or the 9mm at 115 gr at 1150 fps. Significant difference.But now with the 9 mm available in +P and +P+, it catches right up to the Super and is available every where ,---cheap.Jim C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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