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#261 Robert Henley

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Posted 05 October 2018 - 07:49 AM

Ouch, that's a long time just to get an out-of-state (non-C&R) gun to my dealer.

 

Thanks for the information,

 

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#262 John in IN

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Posted 17 October 2018 - 06:37 PM

Form 4, Individual, Guide Lamp M3 Grease Gun

 

Check cashed: 1/30/2018

 

Approved:  9/28/2018   Right at 8 months.  On one of my status check phone calls they said the FBI background check took quite a while.

 

F4 received by dealer:  10/16/2018

 

In my hands: 10/17/2018 :)

 

It's been a LONG ordeal overall but now it's mine!!

 

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#263 Speeddemon02

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Posted 17 October 2018 - 11:08 PM

I to am waiting on the FBI.  What I do not get is a couple have stated that with the new efile for form 1 they were completed from start to finish in only a couple weeks.  Their entire process is shorter than this one step for form 4.


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Posted 03 November 2018 - 09:26 PM

I to am waiting on the FBI.  What I do not get is a couple have stated that with the new efile for form 1 they were completed from start to finish in only a couple weeks.  Their entire process is shorter than this one step for form 4.

From what I understand, it comes down to the FBI background check.  I have seen about 20 people getting back stamps in under 2 weeks they efiled in October.  One guy even had one confirmed in 10 minutes as the ATF already had his print cards on file so he didn't need to mail them.  We calculated about 1000 forms getting filed per day based on the control numbers.  So while some people are getting back really fast stamps, I believe the majority of people are not.

 

The ATF is pretty quick running these, but they ask the fbi to do the BG check.  Sometimes it comes back immediately with "proceed".  In that case, they proceed and you get your stamp back very fast.  Otherwise, you get stuck in the same background check limbo as everybody who paper filed.


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Posted 20 November 2018 - 07:22 PM

anyone transfer from an individual to a dealer lately?

 

still 3-4 months????


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Posted 22 November 2018 - 08:25 PM

anyone transfer from an individual to a dealer lately?
 
still 3-4 months????


Mailed Sept 21st, payment cleared Oct 1st, approved Nov 18th. Out of state individual form 4 to dealer.
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Posted 23 November 2018 - 10:52 AM

i just started one and the other is coming up on 3 months....so looks like im a month behind then and it should be coming soon

 

good news to hear its 2-3 months vs 3-4 months...


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#268 WJP

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Posted 23 November 2018 - 09:18 PM

Yeah, I don't know the hold up. I called on the 13th and they said they weren't even assigned to an examiner. Called the 21st to ask a question and figured I'd check the status again and they were approved. Just turned another form 4 individual to form 4 dealer on the 14th so we'll see how it goes.
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Posted 24 November 2018 - 08:08 PM

It does not take long for a determination once it gets to an examiner, that is the hard part.  With the eform 1 back online and taking no time at all, it gives me hope that they are actually working on the eform 4 portion.


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Posted 24 November 2018 - 09:37 PM

I realize it doesn't take long once it gets to an examiner. I'd like to know the hold up getting to an examiner. I wouldn't think it would be too hard to assign it to someone when they pull the check out. Most of mine have went to the same person anyways.
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Posted 25 November 2018 - 01:01 PM

In a perfect world.  The check is cashed by someone else then sent to the NFA branch where it is processed and placed in a box along with hundreds of thousands of others where it sits.  The system as a whole works for the most part in the grand scheme, but horribly inefficient and with recent changes has only made it worse, but hopefully one day it will get better.


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Posted 22 February 2019 - 09:22 PM

Mailed Nov 14th of 2018 approved Feb 17th 2019. Month longer than my last form 4 individual to dealer but we had the shutdown as well.

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Posted 05 March 2019 - 08:04 AM

FWIW the NFA tracker shows a cluster of Form 4-to-individual transfers starting to form at approx. 270 days, so it looks like 7 months has become 9.


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Posted 05 March 2019 - 09:34 AM

i see 9.5

 

too few dots to tell for sure yet....but the pattern is 9 months on the low end and 9.5+ on the high end...with the july silencer co special coming through i think it goes to 12 months before it comes back down...they sold 10,000 silencers that month...and still havent given the free ones out yet!!!!!

 

ive got a form 4 to my dealer from 11/20/18 still waiting. with the trump shut down 2 months is now 4 on those transfers


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#275 giantpune

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Posted 06 March 2019 - 03:13 PM

They're all over the place.  I'm still waiting for some I filed back in March 2018.  Going on 12 months.  I've got a dozen or so stamps already with this trust.  Seems like it'd be a no brainer to just rubber stamp me by now.  Meanwhile my buddy used the exact same trust as me with the exact same number of responsible people on it for his very first tax stamp.  His came back in 6 months.  Damn beginner's luck.


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Posted 08 March 2019 - 07:52 PM

Mine 

 

Received by ATF  04/06/18

Approved 2/9/19

At dealer 3/4/19


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