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Anybody got any results??

Which ones are you looking for? There were plenty that went and the prices at least to me were surprising. Cheers!

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I'm looking for class 3. Just Thompsons actually.

 

I get that, but there were a bunch listed and I can get specific, but it will take too much to put it all together. Which ones were you looking at? Colt, West Hurley? Thank you.

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A few I was watching. not sure this is all of them

Lot Number: Description Hammer price

466 U.S. Auto-Ordnance M1A1 Thompson Submachine Gun $9,500.00

471 Colt Model 1921 Thompson Submachine Gun $70,000.00

472 Beretta/Springfield BM59 Battle Rifle/Machine Gun $16,000.00

562 Auto-Ordnance "A" Series 1928 Thompson Submachine Gun $22,500.00

572 Auto-Ordnance 1928 "A" Range Thompson Receiver $16,000.00

573 Kahr Arms/Auto-Ordnance Thompson M1 Short Barreled Rifle $2,500.00

574 Tippmann Arms Model 1917 Semi-Automatic $12,000.00

1405 Colt Model 1921/1928 Thompson Submachine Gun $50,000.00

1410 Beretta/Springfield BM59 Battle Rifle/Machine Gun $19,000.00

1577 Auto-Ordnance Thompson M1 Submachine Gun $25,000.00

3360 Auto-Ordnance "A" Range 1928 Thompson Submachine Gun $22,500.00

3371 Auto-Ordnance "A" Range 1928 Thompson Submachine Gun $32,500.00

3374 Auto-Ordnance Model 1928 Thompson Submachine Gun $16,000.00

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A few I was watching. not sure this is all of them

Lot Number: Description Hammer price

466 U.S. Auto-Ordnance M1A1 Thompson Submachine Gun $9,500.00

471 Colt Model 1921 Thompson Submachine Gun $70,000.00

472 Beretta/Springfield BM59 Battle Rifle/Machine Gun $16,000.00

562 Auto-Ordnance "A" Series 1928 Thompson Submachine Gun $22,500.00

572 Auto-Ordnance 1928 "A" Range Thompson Receiver $16,000.00

573 Kahr Arms/Auto-Ordnance Thompson M1 Short Barreled Rifle $2,500.00

574 Tippmann Arms Model 1917 Semi-Automatic $12,000.00

1405 Colt Model 1921/1928 Thompson Submachine Gun $50,000.00

1410 Beretta/Springfield BM59 Battle Rifle/Machine Gun $19,000.00

1577 Auto-Ordnance Thompson M1 Submachine Gun $25,000.00

3360 Auto-Ordnance "A" Range 1928 Thompson Submachine Gun $22,500.00

3371 Auto-Ordnance "A" Range 1928 Thompson Submachine Gun $32,500.00

3374 Auto-Ordnance Model 1928 Thompson Submachine Gun $16,000.00

1409 Law Enforcement Shipped Colt 1921 Thompson Submachine Gun $37,500

3356 Auto-Ordnance/West Hurley 1928 Thompson Submachine Gun $15,000

 

Nice List and I tried to fill the gaps in. Thank you for putting that together.

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Lot 466 was a pre may sales sample. Inter American import export company out of Sacramento CA. Imported lots of pre may sales samples in the early 1980s. I did not see that listed in the ad that it was a pre may sales sample.
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Over 38K for a WH 28 Thompson! I would sell one of mine in an instant if I really thought it could go for that.

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130k for an MG42 wow. Was amazed at the ac556 price and also M50 Reising

 

Morphy's had one for $196,800...

 

 

Why would it bring that much!!?? Anyone want to venture a guess??

 

Rich people with disposable income?

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130k for an MG42 wow. Was amazed at the ac556 price and also M50 Reising

Morphy's had one for $196,800...

 

 

Why would it bring that much!!?? Anyone want to venture a guess??

Rich people with disposable income?

Same rich people that spent $17k on a Reising, just smaller scale.

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Why would it bring that much!!?? Anyone want to venture a guess??

I would guess that the buyer didn't know the difference between an original Colt or WWII gun and a West Hurley.

I have spoken with quite a few customers that bought Thompsons (mostly purchased in the 1980s) Their dealer asked "do you want old used one or a brand new Thompson? Customer: "They still make them?" Dealer: "yep same company Auto-Ordnance" (NOT). Customer "I want a new one"

 

Back in those days little was known about Thompsons, and machine guns in general. There was no internet and few books, one of the few magazines was FirePower. Cox's Thompson book was one of the first in 1982 (?) I don't think he even mentioned the WH guns.

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Frank is right on all that my first Thompson ad was in shotgun news and i sold to Curtiss Earl, Tommy St. Charles and a few others.most major players did not even jump into anything until the mid 80s; and a few east coast guys i met.and Marty Pearl he is still a round. my ad was 7 years before Cox book. and five years after Helmers.it was really good times. I could walk into a station pass the card and offer them $500 to $1000 bucks for decent 21a;s

 

I remember one Illinois dept.#5715 and #6006 they wacked me for 5 g.I just added it to the pile.very few did what Roger and a few others and myself did. They talk about it.But never did it. I was glad they left it for me to get.no other way to keep that history around RON K.

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Ah.. Shotgun news. Great place to look at firearm ads. I remember the old day that thing was thick.. last time I looked at it a decade ago, it was super sad looking. I think they are now called Firearm News.. but never seen it.

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An mg42 went for almost 200k at the Morpheys auction. Rommel must have fired that one I guess

 

Really? Why? I understand when people pay a premium at auctions, but paying 4x the value seems a little odd or fake to me. Anyone could ask a dealer ''Find me an MG42 for $100,000" and pretty much all of us that own one would sell ours in an instant and they could pick through and choose the nicest one. I'm having a hard time believing some of these auctions sometimes honestly.

 

Edit: I looked it up and at least that one was something rare, being a 42/59 model. This recent one at $130,000 is nothing special and refinished. That's why I'm confused.

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