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#1 StrangeRanger

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Posted 02 September 2019 - 05:18 AM

Does anyone have a recommendation for M33 ball?  The American Eagle that came with my rifle is, to put it mildly, less than satisfactory.  It strings vertically to the point that it's impossible to establish a good 300 yard zero.  I talked to the people at 50 BMG Supply about it and they characterized it as "out-of-spec rejects from the Lake City ammo plant."  They blamed the vertical stringing on wide variances in powder charge.  They hold their ball reloads to much tighter tolerances but say the accuracy is still not great because the GI bullets are simply not that accurate.

 

I know that I can get very good accuracy out of either Hornady or 50 BMG Supply match ammo but I'm looking for something a bit less expensive for plinking at 600 and closer

 

Loading my own is out of the question.  I'm not going to invest in the equipment needed to roll .50 BMG for what is going to be a fairly low use rifle.  I've read some good reviews of both IMI and PMC ball and I have some IMI on order.  Are their other options that I should be looking at? 


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Posted 03 September 2019 - 11:15 AM

Well , I use the Talon reloads of the Spotter / Tracer round where a few inches one way or the other don't really matter . :o

There is no reason to have a machine gun fire hundreds of rounds a minute and put them all into one hole . Kinda defeats the purpose . I'd look into what ammo is issued to the M82A1 Barrett teams and see if it's available on the surplus market .Might look at what the Brits use as well .

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Posted 03 September 2019 - 12:22 PM

The target rounds aren't really a problem.  There are several sources aside from the two I listed above.  One or more of them are certain to work out nicely.  I'm looking for a less expensive plinking/practice ball round that can hit something smaller than the engine block of a a BRDM at 600.  American Eagle ain't it, at least not in my M99.  I have hopes that either the IMI or 50 BMG Supply's M33 reloads will get me there.  If they don't, I'll try the PMC but after that I'm out of brilliant ideas and was hoping for additional sources that have proved reasonably accurate.


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Posted 04 September 2019 - 11:49 AM

That was what I was saying . The barretts are semis and more of a sniper rifle , so their issued ammo would be more accurate than the run of the mill M33 . What I am saying is that I do not know if the military makes a target grade M33 type round for them and if any are available for us . Other countries use it as well , maybe one of them offers something .

I have a Ruger RPR in .308 . With Federal factory match it groups 10 shots under 1/2 inch at 100 all day long . With Privi match it is doing good to stay under 2-1/2 at 100 . Imagine my suprise when the Labradar showed the load performances were neck and neck between the two . Difference has to be the bullet or just simply rifle preference .

Go ahead and try a couple boxes of each . Only one has to be good .

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Posted 04 September 2019 - 02:12 PM

AFAIK the military doesn't acknowledge issuing .50 BMG ammo to sniper units outside of the normal range of types available for Ma Deuce.  Having said that, I'd just about bet the farm that Santa left them a few crates of Hornady A-Max in their stockings last Christmas.

 

That way they can hit targets accurately at 1500+ yards

 

Although I bet they really like to play with Raufoss when the mission allows it.  ;)


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Posted 04 September 2019 - 03:32 PM

IMI used to make a match ball round, I still have a box or two somewhere. That and some pulldown projos, not sure if they still market it.

The Canadians make a match ball or AP round also, you can tell them apart as they look like the center or rear portion of the projos appear lathe turned.

The French Anthena round is another known for its accuracy. The only problem is getting them here in the U.S. The Anthena round won the competition for the new U.S. .50 sniper round. For some reason the whole project was scrapped and that was the end of getting a chance of us getting any here.

If you can find any IMI, PMC or other known ammo, buy it as the Fed stuff is just surplus Lake City. Not really known for its accuracy as the M2 is shot into a beaten zone.

Lathe turned projos will also do better accuracy wise then most other ammo on the market. But then the price goes up to about $2 a projo or $5-$10 a round depending on who you buy it from.
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