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http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif That is by far the sadest and most depressing thing I have seen in years http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/sad.gif

 

The dump was in Vietnam and was all the arms collected after the war. The sheds at the back were full of the unpacked stuff ! These pics were taken in the 80s and I have been informed that the dump has been cleared and the arms scrapped. Some of the miniguns in the sheds found themselves on various film sets in the 90s.

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"Outrageous! Outrageous!!.........Outrageous!!!"-Quote from the British Army physician, on first seeing the appalling conditions at the hospital in Damascus, in the movie, Lawrence Of Arabia. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/mad.gif http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/blink.gif
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http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/mad.gif What type of sick F*#k would put up a web site lite that with no way to respond to it!? Oh I do see it is a UK web address. That says a lot. I know there are some UK members that will be upset with me but I know it's not you,but some warped anti gun individual who needs a good old fashioned American Ass Whooppin'! And that's with 2 P's! http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/mad.gif

Just think of all the extra tax dollars our goernment could be reaping off of the sales of these items to collectors like us. Sometimes they just don't have a freakin' clue do they!?

Ok I'm off my soap box until the wife pisses me off again. I'll go to my corner of the basement. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/dry.gif

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I hear the wail of a thousand souls, crying as with the voice of one.
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MY GOD!!!!!! I have never seen anything like this place!!!! The incredible thing is why would this arms dump exist at all? What with all of the small armys in the world etc. That need arms (not to mention all of us gun enthusiasts) man, i would have loved to have cleaned up that "dump"! What's interesting here is that there is an HK53 on the pile of k98's where did that come from? SAD!!! Think of all the money that they could have made off of us by selling all of the usable pieces!!! http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/sad.gif
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Mp 40 is right, they could have made a bundle selling these threw a middle man onto the US or world market. wouldn't mind having one of them though, just to see if it could be reactivated.

 

BB

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Government waste. We paid a TON of money for that stuff in taxes to let it ruin like that. Even if every gun pictured was just 100 bucks each, its still a damn shame. Don't be too pissed at the British, they are still too dumb to recognize the value of civilan ownership of guns. They were during WW2 also. My Thompson is Brit proofed as a testament to the stupidty of gun control.

 

Jr

 

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What I found interesting is the website admimistrator said all those guns were from Vietnam, yet you don't see any M-16's unless I missed them. Plus I had no idea that many Thompson were involved in the Vietnam war. The stuff made it all the way to the 80 without anyone knowing about it, but previous to the 1986 machine gun laws they probably didn't feel it had much value.
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Maybe some battalion got the word to purge their inventory, to make room for the M-16.
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QUOTE (96lt1ss @ Nov 23 2003, 10:46 PM)
What I found interesting is the website admimistrator said all those guns were from Vietnam, yet you don't see any M-16's unless I missed them. Plus I had no idea that many Thompson were involved in the Vietnam war. The stuff made it all the way to the 80 without anyone knowing about it, but previous to the 1986 machine gun laws they probably didn't feel it had much value.

The photo was taken in the 80's and these weapons had been there for awhile. The M-16s still had value for modern combat, either with the Vietnamese or their friends (ex-US M16s from Vietnam wound up in Nicaragua and that area during the 1980s).

 

Thompsons, along with BARs, M1 Garands, 1919A4s, M3 'Greaseguns' and M1/2 carbines, were used to arm the South Vietnamese Army after the French bailed out.

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QUOTE (John Jr @ Nov 23 2003, 09:38 PM)
Don't be too pissed at the British, they are still too dumb to recognize the value of civilan ownership of guns.

whooa...easy tiger! http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif

 

Where does it say that us Brits were responsible for dumping these weapons? The photos are on a UK website that's all.

 

And anyway, real shootable Thompsons are illegal in the UK but at least they can be decommissioned (dewat) without cutting them up into pieces like you have to do in America. That seems a pretty "dumb" law in my opinion. So, according to your way of thinking, that would make all Americans dumb wouldn't it?

 

I don't agree with our gun laws either but that's just the way it is so let's cut out the Brit bashing please...

 

Did anyone see the photo of the MG34's on that website? I had no idea that they were used in Vietnam..

 

 

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Ben,

Your point is well taken. Hell, the U.S. farms out anti-terrorist work to the SAS when we want to make sure the job isn't mucked up. Margret Thatcher's resolve in rooting out the Argentinians from The Malvinas during the 1982 Falkland War was truly a profile in courage. She even had to admonish Bush 41 not to go "wobblie" when dealing with Saddam back in 91. Our own FBI turned their arsenal of 1928 Colt Navy TSMGs into manhole covers.

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Orwell (Sgt Eric Blair) quite strongly advocated the gun in every home in the 40s. Rather the same as the 2nd amendment, a way to keep government honest.

 

Anyway, a friend in the UK 'shared' that pic with me last Friday and we both could have wept.

 

todd

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ah yes.."wobblie" or to "chuck a wobblie" ..what a corker of a saying..

 

cheers for the PM Sgt.Martin, couldn't let em get away with it could I http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/wink.gif

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Most of the stuff in pics was left over WW2 stuff that we sent to Nam in early 60's. A good portion of it was not issued in any qty.,such as the mg 34's, K98's. The piles of rusty stuff were scrapped by 89 but a lot of stuff that was deemed still usable (not rusty) were kept,sold. I saw a couple of conex's of K98's that were unissued that could have been bought. The govt. must have subscribed to Shotgun News as they wanted US$200 ea. & no better $ if took all. I offered $20 ea for the K98's,was told that they did not have permission to negotiate. The location resembles just south of Tan Sohn Nut base, sheds gone at that time, rusty bits & pcs. all over . The location was controlled by a Vietnamese (Govt) Co.General Service Co.that was in charge of war assets. Their office was on Me Linh Square in Saigon.
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I can just see it now...

 

Hank, what we going to do with all these guns rusting away in Vietnam? We got to get rid of them otherwise the Vietnam Govt. are gonna do it for us and send us the bill..

 

Well sir, we could sell em off. That way all the responsiblility is with the buyer and leaves us in the clear and we won't have to lift a finger..

 

Good idea, got any idea on a price?

 

Yeah, what about £200 each?

 

Sounds good..but ain't that a bit much?

 

Probably sir but if they sell we're going to have one hell of a christmas and if they don't we just do it the way we supposed to in the first place and get a bonus anyway for a job well done...

 

Ah, well done my boy! I've always said we need more of your type round here...

 

 

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The Russians supplied North Vietnam with the MG 34/42's from, of course, the captured stocks of Wehrmacht equipment. Evidently, they captured huge quantitys of these weapons,so naturally they thought, why not use them against the French in "Indochine"? as an interesting side note, the French signed up some ex-SS members to use against the Vietcong! that of course, didn't go over well in France when it was discovered! But the ex-SS members where particularly well respected and feared by the vietcong. HMMM.....i wonder why? And as for the American weapons, they where supplied to the south, in large (huge) quantitys near the end of our involvement in Vietnam...So sad to see that it went to waste.... http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/sad.gif
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Pardon me if I offended any of you Englishters out there. I was just stating my opinion on the pitiful waste. FA45 was huffing a bit about the Brits. Just wanted to ease his feelings. I know exactly how he feels.

 

"""And anyway, real shoot able Thompsons are illegal in the UK but at least they can be decommissioned (dewat) without cutting them up into pieces like you have to do in America."""

 

Its certainly NOT your fault that England is a country full of liberal idiots that believe in gun control. We can fire our registered Thompsons all day long here; poor folks in England cannot even own a pistol.

 

Deactivation of a Thompson is certainly not accomplished by simply plugging the bbl and slicing the front off of the bolt. Both parts can be had and installed for less than $300 (US). You cant very easily reweld a torch cut receiver thats been whacked in 3 places. Maybe they knew that in case the Germans ever came knocking on the gates of Southampton again.

 

I do appreciate the fact that there are people in England that do fancy the Thompson. It is the most recognizable gun shape in the world.

 

I'm off now.

 

(Eat some cold taters and fish and fondle your Thompson for me chaps)

 

Jr

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