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Just got a Remington Model 17 SSBS, wondering about history


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#1 Bartlow

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Posted 18 June 2019 - 04:08 PM

I just got a Remington Model 17, registered as a factory made short shotgun. It is a factory police special gun. It was apparently one of 13 obtained from a police agency in the early 1990's. The batch included serial numbers 56309, 62337, 67009, 67013, 67033, 67379, 67386, 67517, 67565,  67574, 67666,  67781 and 67904.

 

I was wondering if anyone had one of these guns, and knew where it came from? I realize I can do a FOIA request, but maybe someone has some legwork done already.

 

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Posted 18 June 2019 - 10:23 PM

Yup! PM sent


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Posted 19 December 2019 - 10:36 AM

Attached File  SKM_C55819121909111.pdf   144.72K   6 downloadsSo I did a FOIA request and for the first two transfers/entries I got the attached, essentially solid black, "documents" back from ATF. The information on the other two transfers the gun had been through was information I already had. 

 

Not very helpful. I am pretty sure the original owner, and original registrant of these guns was a government entity.

 

So I did an appeal. It is pretty clear, I think, that 26 USC 6103 does not apply to government entities. They are not taxpayers, they never owe any tax, and so whether these forms are return information or not, they aren't entitled to the privacy protections of section 6103. I think that sometimes other parts of FOIA might prevent disclosure of some NFA documents filed by government entities (such as information on guns the entity currently has), but I see no exemption for information on a gun the agency no longer has, and disposed of over 20 years ago.

 

So I did an appeal, which is also attached. Based on past experience, ATF probably won't reply, but maybe they will.They haven't responded yet. Attached File  SKM_C55819121909110.pdf   54K   7 downloads 


Edited by Bartlow, 19 December 2019 - 10:42 AM.

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