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#1 lightguy

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Posted 17 October 2019 - 10:43 AM

https://auctions.mor...-LOT475604.aspx

 

 

# 7176.

I wonder what this will bring.

Currently at 45K plus premium.


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#2 StrangeRanger

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Posted 17 October 2019 - 12:40 PM

Lots and lots of TSMGs in that auction.  Will be worth watching to see how prices in general are going


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Posted 20 October 2019 - 03:42 PM

There are several nice ones.  An M-1 really catches my eye.  ;)


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Posted 22 October 2019 - 05:39 AM

There are more Colt guns on the market now than there has been in a long time. Lot of nice ones too. I wonder what the market will bear as there arent that many people ready to drop $35k-$45k on one (and have the money to do so) this is a buyers market
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Posted 22 October 2019 - 07:09 AM

If you are looking for a nice 21A at a shooter gun price, look at the 21 the Colt Chopper is selling. Golden Gun


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Posted 22 October 2019 - 07:24 AM

Sadly for me it is a buyer's market. I am selling a couple guns right now... But overall this might bring new folks into the game, and everyone knows it is tough to get just one Thompson! The Colt shooter guns are now hitting below 30K. https://www.proxibid...mation/50338075


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Posted 22 October 2019 - 09:27 AM

Mike,

Looks like a nice Colt.

I wonder if the 20% premium is turning off buyers. Perhaps that's what's behind the soft market. If you don't have to sell maybe you should hold off.

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Posted 22 October 2019 - 01:19 PM

Here is what I got pricewise from my watch list.

LOT PROXIBID DECRIPTION HAMMER W/26% 
1001 (N) AUTO ORDNANCE BRIDGEPORT 1928 THOMPSON SPECIALLY FITTED WITH CUSTOM MADE FRONT SIGHT AND KNIGHT’ $17,000 $21,420 
1006 (N) EXCEPTIONAL ORIGINAL CONDITION COLT 1921A THOMPSON 1921 MACHINE GUN (CURIO AND RELIC). $47,500 $59,850 
1013 (N) VERY ATTRACTIVE ERB REGISTERED COLT MODEL 1928 COMMERCIAL BROWNING WATER COOLED MACHINE GUN (FUL $13,000 $16,380 
1016 (N) FANTASTIC NEAR MINT AUTO ORDNANCE WEST HURLEY THOMPSON MACHINE GUN IN M1A1 CONFIGURATION (CURIO $15,000 $18,900 
1018 (N) ATTRACTIVE SMITH ENTERPRISES M14 MACHINE GUN (FULLY TRANSFERABE) WITH S.C.R.C. MK 23 SUPPRESSOR. $12,500 $15,750 
1026 (N) EXCEPTIONAL CONDITION LIGHT AS A FEATHER AUTO ORDNANCE MODEL 1928 A22 THOMPSON MACHINE GUN IN .2 $12,000 $15,120 
1031 (N) GROUP INDUSTRIES 1918A2 BROWNING AUTOMATIC RIFLE MACHINE GUN (FULLY TRANSFERABLE). $16,000 $20,160 
1033 (N) EXTREMELY FINE WORLD WAR II ERA AUTO ORDNANCE 1928A1 THOMPSON MACHINE GUN (CURIO AND RELIC). $19,000 $23,940 
1035 (N) ATTRACTIVE AND WELL ACCESSORIZED AUTO ORDNANCE WEST HURLEY THOMPSON MODEL 1928 MACHINE GUN (CURI $15,000 $18,900 
1037 (N) EXCEPTIONALLY RARE U.S. MILITARY SUCCESSOR TO M1A1 THOMPSON MARLIN MANUFACTURED M2 MACHINE GUN ( $42,500 $53,550 
1039 (N) ICONIC AND VERY HANDSOME COLT THOMPSON 1921 AC MACHINE GUN (CURIO AND RELIC). $20,000 $25,200 
1041 (N) THE ONLY REMAINING PANCOR MK3 “JACKHAMMER” SELECT FIRE REVOLVING SHOTGUN MACHINE GUN IN EXISTENC passed passed 
1042 (N) EXCEEDINGLY RARE AND SUPERB ITALIAN WORLD WAR I VILLAR PEROSA 1915 TWIN 9MM MACHINE GUN (CURIO A $42,500 $53,550 
1043 EXCEPTIONAL REPRODUCTION OF ITALIAN WORLD WAR I AIRCRAFT PEDESTAL MOUNT FOR VILLAR PEROSA 1915 TWIN $3,250 $4,095 
1044 (N) PEARL MANUFACTURING COMPANY REGISTERED VALMET M-78 7.62x39 MACHINE GUN (FULLY TRANSFERABLE). $14,000 $17,640 
1045 (N) SCARCE AND DESIRABLE BRASS MAXIM MODEL 1898 MACHINE GUN MADE BY DWM FOR ARGENTINA (CURIO & RELIC $30,000 $37,800 
1048 (N) SCARCE M1 MODEL THOMPSON MACHINE GUN FROM WORLD WAR II ERA (CURIO AND RELIC). $23,000 $28,980 
1057 (N) SCARCE AND POPULAR AUTO ORDNANCE MODEL 1928 A22 THOMPSON MACHINE GUN IN .22 LR (CURIO AND RELIC) $8,500 $10,710 
1077 (N) REFINISHED HARRINGTON & RICHARDSON REISING MODEL 50 MACHINE GUN (CURIO & RELIC). $5,500 $6,930 
1091 (N) QUALITY HARDWARE FOLDING STOCK M2 CARBINE MACHINE GUN (CURIO & RELIC). $9,000 $11,340 
1092 (N) CHARLES ERB INLAND M2 CARBINE MACHINE GUN (FULLY TRANSFERABLE). $7,500 $9,450 
1094 (N) DESIRABLE POWDER SPRINGS MILITARY ARMAMENT CORPORATION MAC M-11 .380 ACP MACHINE GUN WITH SUPPRE $7,000 $8,820 
1101 (N) COMPANION SHOOTING SUPPLIES/COLT VICKERS MODEL 1918 MACHINE GUN CONVERTED TO GROUND GUN (CURIO & $9,000 $11,340 
1106 (N) DESIRABLE ORIGINAL MARLIN MANUFACTURED UNITED DEFENSE UD-42 MACHINE GUN (PRE-86 DEALER SAMPLE). $8,000 $10,080 
1111 (N) FANTASTIC COLT 1921 THOMPSON SPECIALLY FITTED WITH CUSTOM MADE FRONT SIGHT AND SILENCER (CURIO & $21,000 $26,460 
1123 (N) VERY FINE CONDITION AND FULLY TRANSFERABLE ORIGINAL MARLIN MANUFACTURED UNITED DEFENSE SUPPLY CO $17,000 $21,420 
1131 (N) VERY NICE U.S. ORDNANCE MARKED WORLD WAR II ERA AUTO ORDNANCE THOMPSON 1928A1 MACHINE GUN (PRE-8 $7,000 $8,820 
1132 (N) FINE INLAND M2 CARBINE MACHINE GUN (CURIO & RELIC). $11,000 $13,860 
1156 SCARCE ORIGINAL MATCHING NUMBERS NEW YORK COLT 1921 THOMPSON SUBMACHINE GUN "L" DRUM MAGAZINE. $5,000 $6,300 
1380 (A) RARE 1ST MODEL 1866 WINCHESTER FLATSIDE SADDLE RING CARBINE. $10,000 $12,600 

Edited by giantpanda4, 22 October 2019 - 01:20 PM.

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Posted 22 October 2019 - 03:19 PM

The 20% commission is part of the final value/price $25,000 = $ 30,000. $40,000 = $48,000. $40,000 = $50,000.
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Posted 22 October 2019 - 04:58 PM

Don't forget the sales tax!
It was in the auction instructions that it will be collected.

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Posted 24 October 2019 - 01:58 PM

Hey Richard just bought some GSG 40 9MM mags from you guys great service and quick ship.If you plan on making SAR show this year let me know.{HAVE QUESTION}RON K. 

 

And yes auctions all the hidden costs...or upfront here you go costs.


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Posted 24 October 2019 - 03:09 PM

Hey Richard just bought some GSG 40 9MM mags from you guys great service and quick ship.If you plan on making SAR show this year let me know.{HAVE QUESTION}RON K. 

 

And yes auctions all the hidden costs...or upfront here you go costs.

 

My people are loading the SAR pallets up now, while we have some time.
We can deliver product to the show, if you want to call my CS people and make a purchase.
Those GSG MP40 magazines are very popular, ATI must be selling a lot of those guns.
I have bought an MG at auction once (COWANS) from the Dick Wray collection.
I really do better buying direct, but that is just me.

Richard


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Posted 24 October 2019 - 04:14 PM

This may be a dumb question but do the sellers have to pay a percentage of the hammer price to the Auction Company?

 

edit:  I should have worded my question, does the seller have a percentage deducted by the Auction Company on the hammer price as a listing fee or some other terminology.


Edited by Bridgeport28A1, 25 October 2019 - 08:57 AM.

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Posted 24 October 2019 - 11:28 PM

Yes, in many cases.  It's called a seller's premium.


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Posted 25 October 2019 - 09:14 AM

Yes, in many cases.  It's called a seller's premium.


II had to pay RIA when they sold my antique Mauser "Zig-Zag" revolver for me.

The auction houses make money on both sides of the deal.
It is what helps pay for the colour catalog/books they publish and all that other overhead.

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Posted 25 October 2019 - 03:56 PM

And yet you have to pay for those books when you order them too
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Posted 25 October 2019 - 05:13 PM

And yet you have to pay for those books when you order them too

 

JCE was said to have taken in as much as $30,000 a year selling his 'catalogs'.  And one year sometime in the 1970s, I was one of the 6,000 or so who sent him $5.  I finally tossed it out in the early 90s.  Wish I'd kept it.


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Posted 25 October 2019 - 07:41 PM

This may be a dumb question but do the sellers have to pay a percentage of the hammer price to the Auction Company?
 
edit:  I should have worded my question, does the seller have a percentage deducted by the Auction Company on the hammer price as a listing fee or some other terminology.

 
For real exceptional items with a strong demand... negotiable.


Have not been able to duck under their buyers fees.

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Posted 25 October 2019 - 07:44 PM

And yet you have to pay for those books when you order them too

Depends upon your buying history.

 

Its like Vegas..where drinks and rooms are "Free" to a certain clientele ;)


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Posted 25 October 2019 - 08:07 PM

"Final prices include buyers premium: $57,000.00"

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Not stellar but OK for the condition.

Good to see that nice guns are still pulling the big numbers.


Edited by lightguy, 25 October 2019 - 08:09 PM.

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