mgvince Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 Looks to be Parked. Late sight. Would that rear sight have been installed at a rebuild/refurbish, and the finned barrel retained? Have questions sent to seller. No answers back yet. 463411270 Any leads on 1928A1 for sale. Send them to me. Thanks, Vince Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnshooter Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 (edited) Finned barrel would be correct. Front grip looks original, and could be correct for that serial number. Rear sight and Butt stock absolutely are replacements, whether arsenal overhaul or later. Park job looks more recent. Will be interesting to see if bids reach the reserve. Edited January 17, 2015 by mnshooter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin601 Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 (edited) No way that is parked (if it is phosphate, looks more like a "paint", notice the chipping at the front of the frame and receiver) job was done correctly, parts would be a different color Edited January 17, 2015 by Paladin601 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnshooter Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 No way that is parked (if it is phosphate, looks more like a "paint", notice the chipping at the front of the frame and receiver) job was done correctly, parts would be a different colorGood eye. Could indeed be a spray paint advertised as the "Dark Parkerizing" color -which has often looked very similar, in my experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 I've seen plenty of military knives with that kind of finish. I have an M6 bayonet and a USMC fighting/utility knife with parkerizing like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnshooter Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 (edited) The color being so consistent throughout does seem more like paint. Also, to the left of the serial number, there is a patch that seems to show the blasted metal through a thin area. Maybe someone else who does these finishes can comment. Edited January 18, 2015 by mnshooter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim c 351 Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 I agree with those above that said it looks painted and paint can hide a lot of defects.Jim C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurencen Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 that's one poor finish for something worth 20K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARK2112 Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Yep..its paint,looks like dura coat "parker finish", we use that on our FALs.thats a damn shame to paint a gun like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard w. Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Seller certainly is a man of few words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridgeport28A1 Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 If this Gunbroker Savage 28 is the same Thompson DLansky references in his thread:http://www.machinegunboards.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=17266 I would believe DLansky if he says the Thompson finish is parkerized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLansky Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 my statement that the gun was parkerized is based on a report to me by its owner. I have not personally examined the gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridgeport28A1 Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 DLansky, thanks for the clarification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurencen Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 some older 22s and 306s were painted with automotive engine paint, they shot blast the action, heat in oven to 130F and spray it, then back in oven for half hour, looks just like this finish, better than just paint, looks somewhat appealing but cheap and not much better durability than plain paint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KR09 Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 I see that this gun has now been re-listed on GB at a beginning bid and buy it now price of $18.5k. Perhaps this price is an acknowledgment of some of the issues raised here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banjo Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Front grip is nice but it is from an early West Hurley, before they got really slabby looking. Not saying its not a nice looking grip just saying it's not original Savage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLansky Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 18.5 is the price that the owner authorized me to sell the gun for. but, becasue it was up on gunbroker, I deleted my post. at that price I think it is a good buy as a shooter. others may or may not agree. I am not sure about the west hurley wood. the west hurley foregrip hangers are wider than than military foregrip hangers. In any case, the gun that the pd recently auctioned off for 25+ was in far worse condition than this. if someone is looking for a good shooter grade military gun, this would be hard to beat at 18.5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLansky Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 I spoke to the seller and he believes the gun has been parkerized and not hot painted. he spoke to the person from whom he acquired the gun and he indicated also that the gun was parkerized. the seller reports that the gun comes with an extra mainspring, ejector, firing pin, firing pin spring and hammer, and a vertical foregrip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzz Posted January 23, 2015 Report Share Posted January 23, 2015 (edited) Is there gun paint that's hard to distinguish from Parkerizing? Edited January 23, 2015 by buzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurencen Posted January 23, 2015 Report Share Posted January 23, 2015 curious what test one could do, anything you rub on to verify would for sure remove paint if it was painted and then where would you sit? costly test for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speeddemon02 Posted January 23, 2015 Report Share Posted January 23, 2015 Mine has been parkerized and looks nothing like the pictures on GB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnshooter Posted January 23, 2015 Report Share Posted January 23, 2015 (edited) Mine has been parkerized and looks nothing like the pictures on GB.Taking your word for it; yours is the most blued/dulite looking Parkerizing I've seen. Edited January 23, 2015 by mnshooter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted January 23, 2015 Report Share Posted January 23, 2015 There are three elements used in Parkerizing, each resulting in a different color. There is no one true color for the finishing process. Consult the following passage for a complete explanation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkerizing#Appearance_and_use Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzz Posted January 23, 2015 Report Share Posted January 23, 2015 I'm probably going to get hammered from all sides for saying this, but it seems to me that most older (pre-1980) Parkerizing jobs are grey park instead of charcoal colored park. Has anyone seen an M1 or M1A1 with a black parkerized USGI arsenal refinish, instead of gray? Dulite looks somewhat like black Parkerizing but the texture is different. Dulite is smoother, blacker and more metallic looking than black Parkerizing. Dulite finish shows more tool marks and imperfections in the metal surface from the manufacturing process, and the engraving is generally sharp and clear. Dulite also wears off the gun down to an extremely thin, almost translucent layer, similar to the way bluing wears. I've seen a lot of dulite on Winchesters, it looks different than black park. If I was trying to figure out if that gun is painted, I'd find a worn spot or scape the finish in an inconspicuous spot and look at the scrape with a magnifying glass. That finish could be a fresh Parkerizing job, it's hard to tell from the photos. But it does look too light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzz Posted January 23, 2015 Report Share Posted January 23, 2015 Mine has been parkerized and looks nothing like the pictures on GB.Taking your word for it;yours is the most blued/dulite looking Parkerizing I've seen. hard to say from pictures but i would call that parkerizing, look how granular it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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