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#1 Robert Henley

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Posted 12 July 2019 - 04:02 PM

I bought this MP-40 sling, and have received it.  Could the experts advise on its originality:

 

https://www.gunbroke.../item/820036194

 

I don't see any markings on it.  It does have a slight musky smell, and I will air it out and believe it will be fine in a couple of days or so.

 

Let me know if any questions.

 

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Posted 12 July 2019 - 07:31 PM

Hi Robert, does it have cross stitching on it? Some people use that as a sign of authenticity. Even if it does not, my gut is telling me it is fine. It does have quite a bit of age and the quality is ausgezeichnet (excellent in German).


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Posted 12 July 2019 - 10:34 PM

Here is a picture from the Das Machinepistol 40 website.  Hope it attached.

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Posted 13 July 2019 - 04:31 AM

No cross stitching.


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Posted 13 July 2019 - 07:05 AM

It is longer than the normal MP40 sling but slightly shorter than a K98 sling. No cross stitching maybe a cut down K98k sling possibly post war Czech mfg. You got a good deal on it though.


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Posted 13 July 2019 - 07:41 AM

You should see the pattern on the leather. Mine is heavily used and the pattern doesnt show everywhere. If you cannot see this pattern somewhere? Then I vote its not a mp40 sling

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Posted 13 July 2019 - 10:28 AM

Your sling may be post war Austrian (there were no differences but a stamp) but for 35 bucks you did fine! 

 

It does not appear to be a cut down 98K sling. The milled steel button looks post war. Early steel German buttons were milled and had two flat inner surfaces, with generally one flat outer surface with the other convex, or two convex. They were well made. This one has two convex surfaces against the leather. 

 

You find the stamped end pieces on the friction bar after about 1942. Before that, the bar was a single milled piece.

 

Not all MP-40 slings were marked or cross-hatched. Here are pics of one of mine. You can see the makers mark and dimly see the MP 38 u. 40 stamp, which doesn't survive on well used examples. The sling is original to my all matching bnz 41 MP-40. The sling was made in Austria to German specs. It has no cross hatching.

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Posted 13 July 2019 - 05:10 PM

Not all MP-40 slings were marked or cross-hatched. Here are pics of one of mine. You can see the makers mark and dimly see the MP 38 u. 40 stamp, which doesn't survive on well used examples. The sling is original to my all matching bnz 41 MP-40. The sling was also made in Austria. It has no cross hatching.

 

I remembered this fact from a post a long time ago.  I did look for markings with a magnifying glass, but I'll have to look further with better lighting to see if I can see any markings.  It certainly has the look and feel of an original.  All very helpful.

 

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Posted 13 July 2019 - 07:47 PM

Suggest you read about MP38u40 slings at www.bergflak.com  Additional information can be found when reading about K98 slings.

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Posted 14 July 2019 - 07:36 PM

Suggest you read about MP38u40 slings at www.bergflak.com  Additional information can be found when reading about K98 slings.

Enjoy.

 

Good information.  Enjoyed reading.


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Posted 14 July 2019 - 07:44 PM

Some pictures.  I didn't see any markings except near the button end where the stitchings are they are some very faint markings that are too small to read.

 

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Posted 20 July 2019 - 09:48 AM

I'm sure you saw this, with its photos or original sling buttons.

 

http://www.bergflak.com/mp40.html


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Posted 22 July 2019 - 01:03 PM

Looking thru some books this sling looks like a post war Italian copy of a German WW2 sling.


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Posted 23 July 2019 - 08:27 AM

Looking thru some books this sling looks like a post war Italian copy of a German WW2 sling.

 

Thanks Vin.  I think it's definitely intended for a MP-40 but the extra length is interesting (providing for a little lower carry when slung).

 

When I get a chance I'll install on my BNZ 41 and see how it looks.

 

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Posted 24 July 2019 - 02:06 PM

I saw these just listed on GB


https://www.gunbroke.../item/822802678
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Posted 27 July 2019 - 10:04 AM

Robert, here's what you need for tha bnz MP40 of yours:

 

https://collectorsmi...ader_111209.htm


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Posted 01 August 2019 - 04:52 PM

Robert, here's what you need for tha bnz MP40 of yours:

 

https://collectorsmi...ader_111209.htm

 

Very nice.  I do have six nice 98E magazines (and some other different code magazines).  I've got the repro pouch.  Would like to have a nice original like in the link but very expensive from what I've seen.  I do keep my eyes open.  Here's a leather one on GB: https://www.gunbroke.../item/822223425


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Posted 06 August 2019 - 09:24 AM

Yeah, a nice set or original pouches can set you back $1,500 to $2,500. FWIW, here's the nicest set of repro pouches I've ever seen. They're made in the Czech Republic and are amazing. Original magazines fit perfectly. They'll be on your door step three days after ordering!

 

 https://www.ebay.com...dffdcd77f|iid:1


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Posted 07 August 2019 - 07:51 AM

Yeah, a nice set or original pouches can set you back $1,500 to $2,500. FWIW, here's the nicest set of repro pouches I've ever seen. They're made in the Czech Republic and are amazing. Original magazines fit perfectly. They'll be on your door step three days after ordering!

 

 https://www.ebay.com...dffdcd77f|iid:1

 

Those do look nice for $100.


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