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All,

 

I want to start a U.S. Combat Shotgun reference section for the new board, and I put together the list below for the WWI and later combat shotguns that I'd like to include. If I've missed anything, please let me know. I'm also soliciting pictures of member shotguns to include in the reference section. If your picture is used, I will list a photo credit below your picture with your screen name.

 

WWI

Winchester Model 97

Winchester Model 12

Remington Model 10

Remington Model 11

 

WWII

Winchester Model 97

Winchester Model 12

Remington Model 11

Remington Model 31

Ithaca Model 37

Stevens Model 520-30

Stevens Model 620

Savage Model 720

 

Vietnam War

Most WWII era shotguns listed above also saw service in Vietnam

Stevens Model 67

Stevens Model 77E

Remington Model 870

Winchester Model 1200

 

Post-Vietnam

Mossberg Model 590

M1014 Benellli

Lightweight Shotgun System

 

Feel free to post your picture in this thread, or send it to me at my e-mail address below, if you would like it included.

 

Thanks!

 

David Albert

dalbert@sturmgewehr.com

 

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Here are some pictures of my WWII era U.S. Combat Shotguns:

 

Stevens Model 520-30 Riot Gun (This is actually a trench model, with the cutouts below the front of the barrel to attach the shroud, but it is missing the shroud)

Stevens Model 620-A Riot Gun

Winchester Model 97 Trench Gun

 

http://www.sturmgewehr.com/dalbert/MGBoards/3Guns_Web.JPG

 

Military Markings:

 

http://www.sturmgewehr.com/dalbert/MGBoards/3GunsMarkings_Web.JPG

 

Another picture of the M97:

 

http://www.sturmgewehr.com/dalbert/MGBoards/M97-1_Web.JPG

 

I also have a military Remington Model 11 that I'm building..I have the receiver, barrel, trigger guard, and some internal parts, but am still looking for a military stock and other internals.

 

David Albert

dalbert@sturmgewehr.com

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Another picture of the M97:

 

http://www.sturmgewehr.com/dalbert/MGBoards/M97-1_Web.JPG

 

 

David Albert

dalbert@sturmgewehr.com

 

Beautiful examples of combat shotties, Dalbert !!

 

I particularily like the M97 trench gun...do you have a bayo for it ?

 

Also would like to know the ballpark prices for one ( I understand it's all about condition )

As I see them from time to time at gun shows here in PA...

 

Thanks

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Another picture of the M97:

 

http://www.sturmgewehr.com/dalbert/MGBoards/M97-1_Web.JPG

 

 

David Albert

dalbert@sturmgewehr.com

 

Beautiful examples of combat shotties, Dalbert !!

 

I particularily like the M97 trench gun...do you have a bayo for it ?

 

Also would like to know the ballpark prices for one ( I understand it's all about condition )

As I see them from time to time at gun shows here in PA...

 

Thanks

 

Gunnutz13,

 

Thanks!

 

Yes, I have a bayonet for the M97. I need to take a better picture, but here's a quick shot I took a while back with the bayo attached.

 

http://www.sturmgewehr.com/dalbert/Misc/Winchester97wBayo.JPG

 

Model 97's can range in price dramatically. A non-military Model 97 beater gun might be as low as $200. A military marked trench gun with the correct shroud is probably going to start around $1500, and some really nice ones may be $3K+. Be sure to know what you're buying prior to jumping in. I recommend getting Bruce Canfield's excellent book, published by Mowbray Publishing, titled "Bruce N. Canfield's Complete Guide to United States Military Combat Shotguns," which has collector notes in it.

 

David Albert

dalbert@sturmgewehr.com

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Oh My!! Got to get a bayonet for my '97!!! That would definetly clear me out of a trench!!

 

Dalbert: I cant tell by the pic. Is that a leather sling?

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Oh My!! Got to get a bayonet for my '97!!! That would definetly clear me out of a trench!!

 

Dalbert: I cant tell by the pic. Is that a leather sling?

 

Greg,

 

Yes, it's a leather M1907 unmarked repro sling that is on the M97 currently. I have an original M1907 sling, but it's on my M1903-A3 at the moment. I need to get another one for the M97.

 

David Albert

dalbert@sturmgwehr.com

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http://www.sturmgewehr.com/dalbert/Misc/Winchester97wBayo.JPG

 

Model 97's can range in price dramatically. A non-military Model 97 beater gun might be as low as $200. A military marked trench gun with the correct shroud is probably going to start around $1500, and some really nice ones may be $3K+. Be sure to know what you're buying prior to jumping in. I recommend getting Bruce Canfield's excellent book, published by Mowbray Publishing, titled "Bruce N. Canfield's Complete Guide to United States Military Combat Shotguns," which has collector notes in it.

David Albert

dalbert@sturmgewehr.com

 

Now, that's what I'm talkin' about...!!

 

Thanks for the info dalbert...I'll see about that book before I buy

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I am new to this site and this is my first post.

Can anyone tell me when the 97 was taken out of service. I carried one in Korea 1972. Complete with heat shield and bayonet lug. It never really occurred to me how old it was even then. As K-9 we normally carried the GAU 5, but when working the POL (fuel storage tank farm) we carried a shot gun.

Thanks

 

Mark

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I am new to this site and this is my first post.

Can anyone tell me when the 97 was taken out of service. I carried one in Korea 1972. Complete with heat shield and bayonet lug. It never really occurred to me how old it was even then. As K-9 we normally carried the GAU 5, but when working the POL (fuel storage tank farm) we carried a shot gun.

Thanks

 

Mark

 

Mark,

 

Welcome to the board, and thanks for posting here!

 

I don't know when the Model 1897 was officially phased out. Shotguns being what they are, the technology hasn't changed all that much, and I'm not surprised that you used a '97 in service in 1972. I know that shotguns are commonly used on nuclear submarines to guard the sensitive areas of the sub, and a friend of mine that served in that role told me he saw many different shotguns, and used them himself, as well as a Thompson he used in that role in the early 1990's. The good weapons seem to live on...

 

David Albert

dalbert@sturmgewehr.com

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It's not really an answer to the original question, but as another data point concerning early-model combat shotgun usage, a friend who was in the 101st in the first Gulf War told me that he carried a Model 12 trench gun in that one. (He was in the 326th Airborne Engineers.)

 

Joel

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It's not really an answer to the original question, but as another data point concerning early-model combat shotgun usage, a friend who was in the 101st in the first Gulf War told me that he carried a Model 12 trench gun in that one. (He was in the 326th Airborne Engineers.)

 

Joel

 

Joel,

 

That's another great example of extended service...

 

Thanks!

 

David Albert

dalbert@sturmgewehr.com

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David:

I don't know if this is of any use to you but it gives a definite place and time for shotgun deployment in an unusual area. These documents are from my files.

For the youngsters here: Linda Darnell was a famous actress from this period.

Jim

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd17/italiansport/2010_0718AC44P380010.jpg

 

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd17/italiansport/2010_0718AC44P380014.jpg

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