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Just discovered US Navy S/N 10411, now deactivated, is for sale in the UK, for export to a Non EU country only though.

 

Updated the thread 'Newly Discovered Colt Thompson Serial Numbers - Gordon's Quest' with this information with a few photos.

 

Stay safe

 

Richard

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Yesterday afternoon I emailed the seller and asked if the trigger frame S/N matches the receiver and if possible to strip it and send me a picture of the bolt, I am curios if it is a regular 1928 bolt or a modified 1921 bolt. I also asked him if he could send me any photos of British broad arrow markings, if there were any.

 

Following that email, he replied asking which country I lived in? He never replied to my reply to him, so perhaps he won’t bother putting himself out now that he knows I am in the UK and therefore not a potential buyer, but I live in hope.

 

Stay safe

 

Richard

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" I am curios if it is a regular 1928 bolt or a modified 1921 bolt."

Hi Richard,

 

I am not sure what you mean by this? What is the difference between a regular 1928 bolt and a modified 1921 bolt? Do you mean whether or not the bolt is a Savage made bolt or an earlier Colt manufactured bolt? In either case, there really isn't any difference except some very slight machining differences and the contractor marking for Savage.

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" I am curios if it is a regular 1928 bolt or a modified 1921 bolt."

Hi Richard,

 

I am not sure what you mean by this? What is the difference between a regular 1928 bolt and a modified 1921 bolt? Do you mean whether or not the bolt is a Savage made bolt or an earlier Colt manufactured bolt? In either case, there really isn't any difference except some very slight machining differences and the contractor marking for Savage.

I think he misspoke and was talking about the actuator.

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" I am curios if it is a regular 1928 bolt or a modified 1921 bolt."

Hi Richard,

 

I am not sure what you mean by this? What is the difference between a regular 1928 bolt and a modified 1921 bolt? Do you mean whether or not the bolt is a Savage made bolt or an earlier Colt manufactured bolt? In either case, there really isn't any difference except some very slight machining differences and the contractor marking for Savage.

I think he misspoke and was talking about the actuator.

Okay, that would make sense then. Thanks!

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" I am curios if it is a regular 1928 bolt or a modified 1921 bolt."

Hi Richard,

 

I am not sure what you mean by this? What is the difference between a regular 1928 bolt and a modified 1921 bolt? Do you mean whether or not the bolt is a Savage made bolt or an earlier Colt manufactured bolt? In either case, there really isn't any difference except some very slight machining differences and the contractor marking for Savage.

I think he misspoke and was talking about the actuator.

Okay, that would make sense then. Thanks!

 

gijive / ppgcowboy,

I was thinking it may be a modified 1921 bolt that had the extra weight welded onto it to make up the weight. I recall seeing a picture of that in one of the volumes on the Thompson gun on my book shelves.

 

From the photos I posted in the 'Newly Discovered Colt Thompson Serial Numbers - Gordon's Quest', Tom Davis has already identified several possible WW2 GI parts on this example though, so I doubt it will have a modified 1921 bolt.

 

The dealer has got back to me, to inform me he is selling on behalf of a friend, so he will get back to me with the photos I have requested, so I am now waiting to hear back from him for more information / photos.

 

Stay safe

Richard

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I still think you are referring to the actuator. Can you post a photo of the part you are too, modified or unmodified?

I'll have to look for the book which had the photograph in it, but now I think about, I think you are right... sorry!

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Richard, I have had a word on the brain too at times. Here is a 21 actuator top, 28 Navy in the middle and 28 on the bottom. Is this what you are thinking?

 

Cheers.

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Richard, I have had a word on the brain too at times. Here is a 21 actuator top, 28 Navy in the middle and 28 on the bottom. Is this what you are thinking?

 

Cheers.

 

Yes that is it.

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The actuator I was mistakenly calling bolt is pictured on page 86 of Tom Davis's 'An Amateurs Guide for the Colts Thompson Submachine gun'.

 

Tom had dropped me a line and informed me form the pictures posted in the 'Newly Discovered Colt Thompson Serial Numbers - Gordon's Quest' thread, that a lot of the parts on this Navy 28 appear to be WW2 GI, including the actuator.

 

The dealer has still not got back to me with further requested photos or information.

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How much is he wanting? What do you know about the wood?

 

We can not buy it anyway in the UK as it is an old specification deactivation, (dewat), which due to recent EU legislation, we can not purchase. We are still allowed to own old specification deactivations bought before 2018, but the law says we can not sell / buy, trade or gift them.

 

The European governments do not even trust us with dewats these days.

 

It is for sale to non EU countries or a dealer ( who can then upgrade it to the new EU dewat specifications) for £6500, (Sterling) but as I said Tom Davis has identified a lot of the US Navy 28 is made up from WW2 GI parts, and he said the fore grip and grip are not Colt's.

 

Stay safe

Richard

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