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#61 mgvince

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Posted 28 December 2017 - 09:50 PM

I was an M1 Abrams mechanic in the Army.   We still had M3 grease guns in our M88A1 recovery vehicles.   There were two in each 88 as bail out weapons.

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#62 Petroleum 1

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Posted 28 December 2017 - 10:47 PM

Considering the Marines are responsible for security on all navy ships Im not surprised they are still using 75yr old guns. The Marines always get the hand me downs
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Posted 29 December 2017 - 11:06 AM

mgvince;

1972 while in 6/10 FA, Bamburg, Ger. we had an M88 & M578, Both had M3 GG's. Two in M88 had straight and bent barrels. Interesting to shoot!!!!!!


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#64 MG08

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Posted 29 December 2017 - 02:26 PM

 



Someone stated here in the past that M1-type Thompsons can still be found on (I believe) Los Angeles class submarines.

 
 
why would the navy bother with thompsons?
 
they'd have no parts or ammo in their supply network
 
what does the navy pay for a new M4 assault rifle?  $600 maybe?  the sub probably burns that much money with every spin of the propeller
They don't use M4's to internally guard the nukes, for fear of damaging them if a weapon is fired. They normally use shotguns, from what I understand. I may have been the one who mentioned the Thompsons still being in use, because a friend of mine indicated they were still in submarine use up through at least 1992, when he left service in Navy subs. I don't recall what subs he served on. I don't think they would have a need for many spare parts in such a limited role, but I did not ask my friend that question.

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I can't speak for all USN submarines, but When I was in the Navy, and attached to the Trident program ( early 80s) , We had Ohio class, the old Slow attacks ( old missile boats with the tubes filled with concrete per START treaty) and a few new Los Angeles class boats.  I was pretty familiar with the arms rooms and base armory as I checked out stuff all the time, and transported weapons as part of my duties.  I never saw any Thompsons, no Grease guns, and only a few "other" guns.  Most in use were M14s, M16s and pump shotguns. We still had 1911 45s - this was just before going to the 9mm.  The SEAL detachment had some weird stuff, ( M45 "K"s, M79s, AKs) bu theirs were stored separately.  We had 45 ammo to burn and if there had been Thompsons in the armory, we would have gotten them to shoot. I had free access to check out anything I wanted to shoot, and the Marine range was on my way home from the base. I took every opportunity to shoot I could get. But no Thompsons. 


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Posted 30 December 2017 - 12:40 AM

    Concerning parts availability for "obsolete" weapons possessed by US ARMY Tier One assets and/or Naval Special Warfare Branch entities, (and some others) there are a few modern "facilities" in which the entire purpose is support of weapons maintenance, parts, technology, rebuilding and "fabrication" of anything needed if it cant be found.  These facilities are incredible in what is accomplished from current issued weapons to O L D stuff.  Their budget pretty much has no limits since their main focus is dark side support.  In regard to "older" weapons, (in which are available) additionally they're job is to procure spares and parts conus/oconus OR they make them. 

    Bottom line... If there are US military activities that possess obsolete weapons for any legitimate reason, they provide parts and keep them running, regardless of what small arm weapon system it is.   

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Posted 03 February 2019 - 08:27 AM

Sorry I don't have the reference, but I read somewhere, that the Yugoslavian Army received 34,000 M1A1 Thompsons during the 1950s, as part of a US Military Aid to Yugoslavia Agreement.

 

Some of these guns resurfaced during the Balkans wars in the 1990s, as you sometimes come across photos of them from that period, but I am yet to find a photo of an M1A1 being used by Yugoslavian forces during the 1950's, 60's, 70's or 80's.

 

I have also just received a "Military Commission of the National Republic of Croatia", manual for the M1A1, dated 1953, so that date may coincide with the US Military Aid agreement, M1A1’s being delivered.

 

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Posted 03 February 2019 - 09:01 AM

Heres a neat photograph of my grandfather in the Korean War. It sure the story behind the Thompson in the photograph, could have been a captured Weapon photo op, who knows. I regret not asking about this before he passed. Very cool photo though.

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Posted 03 February 2019 - 11:01 AM

I recall back in the late 60's and early 70's the ads in Shotgun News for Paragon and other companies who sold Thompson parts for 21 cents a pound (or so?) Or a cheap $55.00 per 55 gallon drum full (picked up or delivered via rail freight).
Their ad showed a picture of dozens of drums in a warehouse, with Thompson stocks and barrels sticking out the tops.....
Some of these are still turning up at shows.....
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Posted 03 February 2019 - 11:02 AM

Very nice. Do you have any idea how the photo became "Mirrored"?  He is obviously holding the grip with his right hand.

 

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Posted 03 February 2019 - 11:37 AM

I have no idea! I realized that when looking at the Thompson and the 1911. I think my Aunt has the original photograph and when she was doing a collage for his celebration of life after he passed she may have mirrored it on the computer. Something tells me that Thompson was a captured weapon. He always talked to me about carrying a carbine while he was in country.
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Posted 03 February 2019 - 05:36 PM

To mirror a negative you can reverse it before copying....just turn it over. Same thing happened there as the print was made.
The ejection port is right there on the left side(!!) where it shouldn't be, right? 😉
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Posted 05 February 2019 - 08:07 PM

I was visiting with a German friend after the Oktoberfest last September.  I told him when he was here next time he could shoot my Thompson.  He told me that he had been to a range in Czech Republic and fired a Thompson there.  They did not have any MP-40s for anyone to shoot at that facility.


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Posted 06 March 2019 - 03:25 PM

'WW2 Thompsons in Todays World', I can not remember the source where I found this article, wrote by Master Sgt John Barber USMC, but thought I'd share it with you. 

 

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and some of those 'surplus’ Thompsons found there way into the hands of insurgents, such as the Algerian Armée de Libération Nationale, fighting the French in the 1950's

 

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Stay safe

 

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Edited by rpbcps, 06 March 2019 - 04:06 PM.

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Posted 07 March 2019 - 07:10 PM

    Richard, Great article. Thanks for sharing!!


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Posted 09 March 2019 - 08:29 AM

Heres a neat photograph of my grandfather in the Korean War. It sure the story behind the Thompson in the photograph, could have been a captured Weapon photo op, who knows. I regret not asking about this before he passed. Very cool photo though.

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Posted 09 March 2019 - 08:50 AM

Heres a neat photograph of my grandfather in the Korean War. It sure the story behind the Thompson in the photograph, could have been a captured Weapon photo op, who knows. I regret not asking about this before he passed. Very cool photo though.

Thank you! That’s more like it!
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Posted 09 March 2019 - 09:13 AM

anyone in the military ever see a S&W 76 anywhere? they claim to have been used in Vietnam


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Posted 09 March 2019 - 08:52 PM

anyone in the military ever see a S&W 76 anywhere? they claim to have been used in Vietnam

I know they were used in 1974 during Operation Melon.   Unfortunately this offensive operation turned into a massacre.  Here is the video to prove it.

 

 


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Posted 11 March 2019 - 11:32 PM

Was this followed by Grapes of Wrath?


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