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Serial Number Identification Guide for 1928 & 1928 A1 ?


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Hi,

Sorry if this question has already been asked before, is there a webpage or topic here for identify a 1928 or 1928 A1 production year with its serial number ?

 

thanks

 

paul

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Thanks,

is there a way online ?

there is a demilitarized 1928 for sale (French legal conversion), and i would like to know if it is an interesting model.

could the serial number S.35817 be considered as a "low number" ?

also is the rear "L" sight common on 1928s ?

 

 

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Great proof marks!

 

A serial number that low is absolutely a "low number" gun, and originally had the Lyman adjustable sight.

The milled (smooth) ejector was also used only on the early production guns.

 

Can you send more photos?

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This gun should have the no hole mag catch and a knurled fire control lever to be correct.

 

I think it's a great gun, maybe even a Brit home guard gun?

Is it or will be a display gun only or a live gun?

 

I need my morning coffee.

Darryl

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Thanks guys :)

 

It is demilitarized, non firing but moving parts, alas it had just been sold !

i already have 1928 A1 demilitarized, so i would like to have 1928 !

 

 

Nice avatar

DLansky are you Star Trek fan too ? :happy:

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That is certainly a low numbered Savage Thompson with a New York address on the right side of the receiver. Serial numbers for the Savage Thompsons started in the 15,000 serial number range so it is easy to do the math. As Darryl states above, the fire control lever and magazine catch are not correct. It would be interesting to know if the frame serial number matched the receiver. The L type rear sight and re-enforced butt stock are not correct and another indication this Thompson has been rebuilt in the past. The vertical fore grip also looks like a modern reproduction.

 

The markings could probably be deciphered with a copy of American Thunder II.

 

Thank you for sharing!

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Great proof marks!

 

A serial number that low is absolutely a "low number" gun, and originally had the Lyman adjustable sight.

The milled (smooth) ejector was also used only on the early production guns.

 

Can you send more photos?

 

Very nice. I'd love to see the right side of the receiver. Sorry you lost it...

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Very nice. I'd love to see the right side of the receiver. Sorry you lost it...

 

here Bug :) ... yes missed, i took too much time reflection :(

sorry photo lost by "photobucket"

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh209/paulsavoy/Divers%20Forum/928-NEUTRALISEEe3010_zps69ca355b.jpg

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Isn't the W stamp the Weedon mark? So British.

Yes it is known by collectors as the Woolwick mark and was applied by British inspectors at the factory in America. The actual stamp is illustrated in a booklet on marks and stamps used by the Woolwich Inspectorate.

 

I have two copies of this, one dated 1918 and the other 1939.

 

Its a nice early Savage 'cash & carry' gun.

 

If David sees this post I would like to start a Sticky/Survey for serial numbers of Savage guns with the 'Woolwich' mark. I know a few other guys would be keen for this to happen.

 

Regards

 

AlanD

Sydney

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That is certainly a low numbered Savage Thompson with a New York address on the right side of the receiver. Serial numbers for the Savage Thompsons started in the 15,000 serial number range so it is easy to do the math. As Darryl states above, the fire control lever and magazine catch are not correct. It would be interesting to know if the frame serial number matched the receiver. The L type rear sight and re-enforced butt stock are not correct and another indication this Thompson has been rebuilt in the past. The vertical fore grip also looks like a modern reproduction.

 

The markings could probably be deciphered with a copy of American Thunder II.

 

Thank you for sharing!

Thanks TD

seems you had see the original listing and your deductions are very interesting.

 

I don't know if i messed something : I found the same seller has sold this same number SMG on past december 9...

i did email him question, but no answer yet :(

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  • 1 year later...

Back on this topic after a year, I finally found my 1928 (not A1 ! ) New york production with "low" number 32850 (sorry demilitarized :( )

seems very better that the one i missed : correct magazine catch and selectors, matching numbers, probably original front grip (?)

but butt stock not correct...

 

sincerely

Paul

 

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What was done to demilitarize it ?

 

Ejector and extractor cut, bolt cut at 45° with firing pin welded, hole in the barrel (now, new specification done more holes)

engraved punch on barrel, receiver and frame to prove the approved work.

note : here receiver is intact !

 

 

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I would be happy to have that 1928 in my collection. Very nice to see the upper and lower serial number matches. I think the gun was made in October 1940. I would be interested to know if there is an inspectors proof mark on the right side of the receiver near the witness mark for the barrel. I expect there is.

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I would be interested to know if there is an inspectors proof mark on the right side of the receiver near the witness mark for the barrel. I expect there is.

 

here ?

 

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  • 7 months later...

Hi All,

I'm a newbie here. I'm in the process of getting a 1928 A1 Savage, Bridgeport gun. I'm just patiently awaiting the ATF paperwork to get through. I am also trying to ascertain when my gun was produced. It is marked, U.S. MODEL OF 1928 A1. It's a matching number gun in the S-530xxx range. It has the magazine release with the 'hole' in it. Can anyone help me out ?

Thanks,

Rich............... :)

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I think it'll be suggested that you start your own thread and post pictures (tommy guns are our porn) so it can be analyzed. If you haven't already I'd suggest buying a copy of American Thunder III that was just released.
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I agree, do start another thread dedicated to your "new" Thompson. We all enjoy seeing and hearing about new acquisitions and this is the place with a whole lot of good answers...and opinions ;)

Welcome!

PS: Yes, get American Thunder III.

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Hi,

I added to this topic, because my message upper (07 march 2015) has photos of my 1928 "not A1".

there is actually for sale in France a deactivated 1928 Savage 106213, but Bridgeport (not New York).

So I'm lost with those 2 "1928 not A1" variations !

thanks in advance

Paul :huh:

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Hi,

I added to this topic, because my message upper (07 march 2015) has photos of my 1928 "not A1".

there is actually for sale in France a deactivated 1928 Savage 106213, but Bridgeport (not New York).

So I'm lost with those 2 "1928 not A1" variations !

thanks in advance

Paul :huh:

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That sounds correct What exactly is your question? A poster here (TD) has an excellent book with much info on these early Savage guns. Well worth the $$.

 

Bob D

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Sorry for my English : I mean I'm confuse with 1928 chronology and production.

I was thinking that 1928 production was before A1,

so is the numbering or the 1928 independent of the numbering of the 1928A1 or mixed ?

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