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#21 peter kohler

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Posted 11 August 2018 - 12:17 PM

so are the blanks 45 acp that are readly available from atlantic wall also?    the reason I ask is I have a couple thousand of those if not more I bought for my m1a1 and 28 semi.   btw your short blank barrels work great in both of mine   now im seriously considering your 28 FA.   it would be much more fun at a battle.    last spring I got to shoot one of your FA blank m1a1s    ran like a top!!!


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#22 hughlong

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Posted 13 August 2018 - 07:21 PM

So to be clear, does the 1928 blank gun use a 1928 lower or an m1 lower?
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Posted 13 August 2018 - 07:44 PM

Bob, I am quite interested, impressed, intrigued, Lets start with the blanks, I did a search and didn't find any cheaper than you offer. Somewhere down the road you may not offer these rounds, Will any .45 acp blank work with this edition, or only exclusively with your rounds? i think I know the answer but would rather you verify. Thanks.


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Posted 14 August 2018 - 05:12 AM

So to be clear, does the 1928 blank gun use a 1928 lower or an m1 lower?


The 28 uses a 28 lower and his M1 uses a M1 lower. If I'm not mistaken Bob uses original lowers on most if not all of his blank guns.

Definitely on my list of things to eventually get.

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Posted 15 August 2018 - 12:39 PM

      Answers to questions -

 

     The M1A1 uses either original or trigger frames made by us to ordnance specs.

 

     The M1928A1 uses original trigger frames.

 

    Regarding the blanks, when I designed the gun I wanted to make sure that the ATf approved

it. After meeting with them I learned that one of the big things they look out for on something like

this is safety as much as whether or not the blank gun can be converted to shoot live ammo. For

this reason I designed a blank with a slightly smaller rim so the gun would not fire live ammo. The

standard rim will not fit into the bolt face and will not contact the firing pin. This also means that the

gun will not fire blanks which use a standard .45 ACP rim.

    Time has passed and now there is a manufacturer making a blank gun which uses a standard

.45 blank and I have petitioned the ATF to allow the use of a standard size blank.

     In the meantime we have the blanks designed for the gun available.

 

Bob


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Posted 20 August 2018 - 04:43 PM

Thanks Reconbob for the answer to the blank question. 


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#27 Roland the Thompsongunner

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Posted 22 August 2018 - 08:55 AM

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Can the M1A1 be bought without the lower and wood like the 28 version? Some guys may have these parts from kits already. Thanks, thompsongunner
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Posted 23 August 2018 - 08:52 AM

    Time has passed and now there is a manufacturer making a blank gun which uses a standard

.45 blank and I have petitioned the ATF to allow the use of a standard size blank.

     In the meantime we have the blanks designed for the gun available.

 

Bob

Frankly, that's what I was afraid of. Owners of early "guns" can only use PO's proprietary blank cartridges, while PO starts making guns that will use a standard .45 blank, available from more than one source.  


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Posted 23 August 2018 - 10:06 AM

Sounds like it just needs a bolt change to accommodate the larger rim on standard blanks.
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Posted 24 August 2018 - 01:37 AM

Bob
Can the M1A1 be bought without the lower and wood like the 28 version? Some guys may have these parts from kits already. Thanks, thompsongunner

 

I was curious about this as well. I really wanted to get in on the pre-order when they first came out. But wasn't able to.Now I may be able to swing it.....

 

Thanks!


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Posted 25 August 2018 - 10:19 AM

I am working on either an extra bolt or a modification of an existing bolt to be able
to use "standard" blanks. I will say again that the reason for the special blank was that
ATF strongly suggested it was necessary for safety to get the gun approved.
The new or a modified bolt would enable the use of both standard and Phila Ord
blanks.
If you have a trigger frame and stock and only need the upper the price of a
complete upper is $1995.

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Posted 25 August 2018 - 03:25 PM

Awesome ,Bob !
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Posted 06 December 2018 - 06:01 PM

Received my gun yesterday and wow ! All  tricked out with my 28 lower and vintage wood it more than looks the part. Will post pics and a shooting report soon.  Amazing job Mr. Bob!


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Posted 06 December 2018 - 09:27 PM

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 05:00 PM

Here are a few pics of my new Philly Ord blank gun. All original wood and lower frame.

 

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 07:09 PM

Here are a few pics of my new Philly Ord blank gun. All original wood and lower frame.

 

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WOW, that is fantastic. Enjoy...


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