buckeye10216 Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 Just below the serial number on my GL M3 gg, there is a lightly stamped "LTD". For good or bad, this got added to the serial number in the ATF registry by a previous owner. Does anyone know what it means? Arsenal mark? British Lease Lend? Other?Thank you,Kyle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got Uzi Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 The serial number puts it in the Lend Lease range and having the magazine release bar also confirms that. As to the LTD who knows what or why that was added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeRanger Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 Possibly a British unit designation?Try posting this on milsurps.com. Lots of knowledge about British and Empire stuff over there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMGguy Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 Or maybe it was the importer, like NAC on Numrich imported TSMGs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeRanger Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 Or maybe Tommy Atkins was having a joke at GM Guide and US Ordnance's expense adding "LTD." to their markings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsonlmg41 Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 is this the previous owner's initials? Is he the one that registered it before 1986? If so, he may have added it for registration/ making purposes if it was a dewat? It is not original to the gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekraps Posted August 30, 2022 Report Share Posted August 30, 2022 I'd go back to the ATF and have them correct the Form 4. They will do so, (I have done this several times AFTER i got the approved Form 4) so to accurately reflect the type, model and SN and barrel length (not to mention SN!). ATF will, after about a 90 day delay, review the material you submit (must include an original signed, scanned request detailing what you want corrected, Form 4, copy of trust (if you use one), tons of pics and some type of historical substantiation for the requested change. They will NOT send you a corrected Form 4, instead you will get an official ATF "correction" letter, so when you do sell, the letter plus the Form 4 will accurately describe the gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBoy99 Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 When a DEWAT was activated, the BATF required that the person registering the gun add his initials to the serial number of the gun. A serial number followed by three initials was most likely a DEWAT which was activated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRMCII Posted November 3, 2022 Report Share Posted November 3, 2022 If the LTD was part of the serial number it would be on the registration, so it is not. It was added and there's a good chance they are the initials of the reactivator. Marking reactivated, registered DEWATs is required as noted above but the actual requirement for this intrusive practice misconstrued by ATF as a "manufacturing" process includes the address and state as well as ID of person/shop doing the work and filing the paperwork F1 or F2. Just the initials does not comply with the code since reactivation is "manufacturing" and requires full ID because of that. No change in the info on the paperwork of reactivated MG is allowed or required. It remains the same as the info on the original registration. Just stamping of the initials of the person doing the reactivation really isn't that common but I have seen at least half a dozen or more examples of this being done over many years. Larry Smith, who did a lot of reactivations, for example, only put on his initials. Since ATF never inspected any of this work at the time they never raised any complaints about it. FWIW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyDixon Posted November 3, 2022 Report Share Posted November 3, 2022 i have not heard the name larry smith in a lo.,e, back around 1968 he was in cabin john maryland then moved to dry ridge ky. i wonder what happend to him ? i think he got first pick of anything sam cummings- interarms imported, i got a ppsh-41 for 60.00$ and a mg42.n. on it fmped a 3 dig sor 200.00 $, the mg-42 was a french post war rework,every mark and number ground off then parkerize finish, larry stamped a 3 digit s.n. on it with LS,, just thinkin back ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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