huggytree Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 my S1928 has a 5(stevens) bar on it....want to bring it back to original...anyone have a good/excellent condition grip bar to sell or swap for the 5tevens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bug Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 Don't make any changes just yet. Savage is not listed as a supplier of that part. Give me a day of two to check my gun. There are some strange marking variations on these early S guns. Bob D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1921A Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 (edited) I believe this part is correct on a Savage produced 28. My original finish original barreled gun has the same part. I just checked 2 more Savage 28s and they also have the Stevens S stamped on the mount. TD - Serial numbers for Savage 1928A1 aboveS-177523, Savage 1928 S-110230 and a parts kit gun S-250574 Edited November 19, 2016 by 1921A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD. Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 1921A,What is the serial number of your Savage 1928? And the other two Savage 28s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzz Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 (edited) Huggy, don't fall into the trap of fixing things that should not be fixed. The body of knowledge on all these collector guns is incomplete and it is flawed. A lot of the "knowledge" out there is merely stuff that people have repeated back and forth for decades and then it becomes stubbornly believed in. I knew a guy who took an original Springfield Armory barrel off of a pristine Harrington and Richardson Garand. He knew it was original but he said, "The other collectors won't accept it this way." The guy would rather spoil a mint collector item then have other collectors think badly of it. That is a pretty sad state of affairs. You might think I'm over-stating the situation, but I was a Garand collector for decades and the loud, dumb, stubbornness of the Garand guys continually got on my nerves. The worst part of it was the "restoration" of gunstocks. These guys would clean the stock with a harsh chemical and then stick the stock in the dishwasher. And then they would put red boot polish on the stock and follow it with a weird, complicated application of linseed oil. it's forehead-slappingly dumb and awful but that's what "everyone" says to do. Edited November 18, 2016 by buzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrylta Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 I agree with Buzz, it isn't worth the tribulations of removing and replacing the barrelunless you already own the proper tools and are looking for an excuse :-)Darryl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief762 Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 Savage, Stevens and Fox. Basically the same outfit. I believe your grip mount is original to the gun. Just my .02 cents.Chief762 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DZelenka Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 Huggy, don't fall into the trap of fixing things that should not be fixed. The body of knowledge on all these collector guns is incomplete and it is flawed. A lot of the "knowledge" out there is merely stuff that people have repeated back and forth for decades and then it becomes stubbornly believed in. I knew a guy who took an original Springfield Armory barrel off of a pristine Harrington and Richardson Garand. He knew it was original but he said, "The other collectors won't accept it this way." The guy would rather spoil a mint collector item then have other collectors think badly of it. That is a pretty sad state of affairs. You might think I'm over-stating the situation, but I was a Garand collector for decades and the loud, dumb, stubbornness of the Garand guys continually got on my nerves. The worst part of it was the "restoration" of gunstocks. These guys would clean the stock with a harsh chemical and then stick the stock in the dishwasher. And then they would put red boot polish on the stock and follow it with a weird, complicated application of linseed oil. it's forehead-slappingly dumb and awful but that's what "everyone" says to do.This is absolutely correct. By the way, my Savage M1A1 has a Stevens marked grip hanger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 Huggy,I'm with the rest of the guys, you could be removing a original part let it go. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin601 Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 Huggy, don't fall into the trap of fixing things that should not be fixed. The body of knowledge on all these collector guns is incomplete and it is flawed. A lot of the "knowledge" out there is merely stuff that people have repeated back and forth for decades and then it becomes stubbornly believed in. I knew a guy who took an original Springfield Armory barrel off of a pristine Harrington and Richardson Garand. He knew it was original but he said, "The other collectors won't accept it this way." The guy would rather spoil a mint collector item then have other collectors think badly of it. That is a pretty sad state of affairs. You might think I'm over-stating the situation, but I was a Garand collector for decades and the loud, dumb, stubbornness of the Garand guys continually got on my nerves. The worst part of it was the "restoration" of gunstocks. These guys would clean the stock with a harsh chemical and then stick the stock in the dishwasher. And then they would put red boot polish on the stock and follow it with a weird, complicated application of linseed oil. it's forehead-slappingly dumb and awful but that's what "everyone" says to do. Spot on!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeTurner Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 "If ain't broke, don't keep fixing it until it is."It will never be NIB again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD. Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 Since Huggy's Savage Thompson is in the 20,000 serial number range I believe it likely the correct grip mount should be marked with an "S" for Savage Arms. Huggy's early Savage Thompson has had a barrel change or two in its lifetime so it is entirely possible the grip mount was changed too. I would be interested in any guns below the 26,000 serial number range, maybe 30,000, with original barrel and finish and anything other than an "S" mark on the grip mount. The verdict is still out but I have some data to support my position above. Great advice from Buzz, darrylta and Roscoe Turner, above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huggytree Posted November 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 Thanks for all the advice!! i didnt think Savage owned 5tevens on 1940?? my gun appears all original except for the barrel and wood....this 1 part stood out to me as the only 5 marked part my gun is on its 3rd barrel that i know of I will take all of your advice and leave it for now until i see a similar serial #'d gun with a S marked part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeTurner Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 Savage purchased Stevens in 1920. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huggytree Posted November 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bug Posted November 19, 2016 Report Share Posted November 19, 2016 I pulled the grip off my 16K gun and the hanger is Savage S marked. I'd bet that Stevens made it but marked it with the round S. Several fire control parts on my gun have the round S but are not listed as being supplied by Savage. I have no idea when the Square S use began. The mark on my hanger is in the exact same place as the square S pictured in post #3. Bob D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banjo Posted November 19, 2016 Report Share Posted November 19, 2016 My 1928 is in the mid 25k serial number range. The grip hanger is marked with the Savage rounded "S". I think I may have emailed TD a photograph at one point when this question had come up in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paceviper Posted November 21, 2016 Report Share Posted November 21, 2016 My M1A1 has a Stevens marked foregrip bar. Also marked with last two digits of serial number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huggytree Posted May 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2019 Still looking for a S marked resting bar if anyone has one theyd sell ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppgcowboy Posted May 19, 2019 Report Share Posted May 19, 2019 Do they exist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huggytree Posted May 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2019 Yes they do Early S1928 had them. 1940 My barrel is replaced and the resting bar too Goal is to find a S1928 barrelSome day to bring my gun back to factory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Wright Posted May 20, 2019 Report Share Posted May 20, 2019 My British Model of 1928 (S-62648), which has its original barrel, has a Stevens (square S) markedgrip hanger... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Wright Posted May 20, 2019 Report Share Posted May 20, 2019 Huggy, a comment about your wanting to find an original S-marked barrel for your gun. My British Model of 1928 has an S-marked barrel, but the S is fairly large, lying on its side, and read upright from the buttend of the gun. It also has pronounced serifs on both ends of the S. Most S-marked barrels I have seenhave a smaller S on the barrel collar parallel to the barrel fins and no serifs on the S. Given the low serialnumber of your gun, I believe the barrel I have on my gun would be the correct one for your gun as well.Anyone else have an S-marked barrel like mine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMG28 Posted May 20, 2019 Report Share Posted May 20, 2019 Tom, You are aware of my Savage Commercial in the 27k range, and it has a Stevens marked grip mount. Therefore, you mentioning those guns below 26k as having Savage marked grip mounts is probably correct or at least in the ballpark. Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huggytree Posted May 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2019 Huggy, a comment about your wanting to find an original S-marked barrel for your gun. My British Model of 1928 has an S-marked barrel, but the S is fairly large, lying on its side, and read upright from the buttend of the gun. It also has pronounced serifs on both ends of the S. Most S-marked barrels I have seenhave a smaller S on the barrel collar parallel to the barrel fins and no serifs on the S. Given the low serialnumber of your gun, I believe the barrel I have on my gun would be the correct one for your gun as well.Anyone else have an S-marked barrel like mine?Ill take your barrel if you want to swap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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