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#1 huggytree

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Posted 06 July 2018 - 01:00 PM

Stamp came this week....this was a fixer upper..

 

Price was approx 2/3rd of what a mp40 should cost (its a German receiver, but a re manufacture)...it has always ran, but needed some refinement and tightening up....

 

numbers match on upper/lower/rear sights/barrel nut/barrel rings......everything else is whatever...its 100% german though, no repro parts

 

list of its original problems: finish worn/falling off w/ light rust starting in, mag well pin hole was redrilled larger and smashed/rusty pin was there, stock was floppy, pin holes in stock were loose (pins would fall right out), springs/pins for butt plate were missing on 1 side and broken on the other, repro barrel, front sights falling off, resting bar repro and rigged, breech pin loose in lower, breech pin hole egged in receiver, front sight over sanded, stock arms pitted and over sanded, firing pin bent and 1/2 broke off and bakelite in horrible condition...and to top it off on test firing the charging handle flew off!

 

gun ran well though!...thats the good news

 

so i found a NOS barrel, a minty bakelite, bought a parts kit and swapped the whole stock, got a newly made Bulgarian bushing from a friend and filed it down,  grabbed the springs for the butt plate and with a few other tricks was able to make the stock solid as heck..it can still move about 3/4" up/down but you need to put 50lbs of effort into it moving.....i took the sights off the parts kit barrel and soldered them onto my new barrel, i stole the resting bar, swapped firing pins, got a new bolt and had the charging handle welded on, i had the loose breach pin sheet metal welded, i had the egged hole in the receiver welded ($40 for all the welding and 15 minutes!).......i cold blued it for now just to clean up the rust and make it look nicer. sold the parts kit for more than i paid to a guy that wanted it for weekend Nazi dressup on a fake gun.....i am setting up an appointment to get it hot dip blued and a new mag well pin made at the end of the month........going out to test its function again this afternoon....

 

OOW wanted $3000-4000 to fix this gun up ...and that didnt include the barrel and bakelite.i told them to send it back....ive got almost nothing into any of the repairs....ill have $500-600 into a reblue...

 

the upper to lower still has about a 3/16th wiggle....the pin hole in the receiver is so tight now you have to bang it in with your palm...im starting to guess that these are made to have some wiggle.....

 

 

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Edited by huggytree, 07 July 2018 - 04:02 PM.

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Posted 06 July 2018 - 03:27 PM

 

runs 100%..smooth as butter


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Posted 06 July 2018 - 05:15 PM

Wow, you sure saved a bunch by doing it yourself. Nice job and nice video!

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Posted 06 July 2018 - 09:54 PM

in the end ill have saved $3000-$3500 if you believe OOW was being fair on their gunsmithing.....15 minutes of welding and a refinish(for which their time line was 6+ months)....my guess is $1000 per hour of their time....they were nice when i asked for my gun back though...they tacked on $50+ to my bill w/o telling me just to ship it back...$220 to ship it back...nice eh?......not the best experience there

 

its never going to be a high end collector gun....it will be a very nice looking shooter though when refinished in a month...its a very nice looking shooter as is right now...it functions 100%, its solid, smooth running....cold blue can only do so much though....good enough for a month until my bluing guy opens up


Edited by huggytree, 06 July 2018 - 09:59 PM.

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Posted 07 July 2018 - 03:31 PM

The sling ring was originally mounted so that the sling was on the right side of the gun, where it doesn't foul your hand and the bolt during cocking.


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Posted 10 July 2018 - 09:36 PM

I had John Andrewski work on my tube MP40 and he did an excellent job at a fair price in my opinion.  My tube gun did not have a bolt safety notch and mag well was loose/wobble with pin falling out.   He also worked on the bolt knob to correct push/pull issues.  I told him to go through the weapon and fix anything suspect.  He was very honest and did not try to up-sale me on any unnecessary repairs.  The stocks usually always have a wobble and mine has a slight one.  If your stock has excessive wobble, he can fix it.  He can also do a new finish on your MP40 which will be period correct. 

 

TSMGguy is correct, the sling mount was placed on the right side from the factory but some German Soldiers would change it to the left while in the field.  You can decide which side you like the best, but think the right side is the best for a right handed shooter.

 

I have owned two tube guns, a Wilson and currently an Erp, and one of my favorite subguns to shoot.  Have fun with yours and sounds like you did an awesome job with purchase price and fixing it up.

 

Take care,

 

Mac 


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Posted 11 July 2018 - 12:03 PM

Huggy looks real nice and also you don't have a fortune into it as a shooter.Had a posty  FOR YEARS$2,000.00 into  it for shooting. And when came time to sell got that back out of it.Now the shooter is a Commando 16

shoot my buddies POSTY now so cost me no outlay just the ammo.

 

Would like to get back into a MP-40 MP-38 again.But my last offer of $50 grand to buy a MP-38 soured that deal.And i am sure here 99% of the members would be the same.

Most are sitting on stuff they bought decades ago.so not a whole lot of dough outlay. you madea wise move on that 40 and got it fixed right on the cheap.And for a handler, fondle, shooter it does not have to be numbers match all perfect blue and erection rigid stock.

 

Enjoy it like life, we have only so much of it.Colt21a Ron


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Posted 11 July 2018 - 04:21 PM

its off to a local gun smith/friend for a refinish in 2 weeks....im going to have him look further into tightening things up even more.....really the stock is rock solid...it moves but you need to use all your strength to budge it.....

 

one of the main reasons i chose to do much of the work myself is the lack of gunsmiths...i really couldnt go wrong as the gun has always ran...my efforts were just cleaning it up and tightening it up...something anyone can do...for that stock i even used the feeler gauge trick...cut 2 feeler gauges for either side of the stock button...it takes up the wiggle between the stock and the button....took 1/4" of slop out of the stock right there....they are hidden under the button and the button pin goes through the holes in the gauges....found that one online somewhere....

 

the parts kit was the biggie...i will never understand why the original builder used a worn out parts kit.....when they were $25-50 why get a $25 one.......as for the rust setting in on it...many guys toss these guns in a basement or in a pile somewhere.....to them its still a $300 gun.......sad for the gun as its now a $16-18k gun....but to them they paid $300 for it in 1980 so why do they care.....now ive got to clean that mess up.....lucky it is just very,very minor surface rust and not pitting....1/2 of it came off with steel wool and oil....cant do that with the inside of the tube though

 

my son says its his favorite of my guns....he prefers its looks even to the thompson!! (not me)


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Posted 11 July 2018 - 05:51 PM

I remember my first at $500.00 bucks around 1975, #349F MP-40  Bill Rutledge in Ohio. Probably Bill is gone now but i am sure the gun sits someplace.Bought it from Roger Cox's stash at the time.When he was just starting out.

 

Today everything has gone just so Haywire. bought a Colt retro XM177E2 FOR $2,500.00 LAST MONTH And located the real deal to it new in box for $40,000.00 Just sold, 1974 issue, so i guess i saved $37,500.00

 

And some would ask how? well it is sitting in the safe just like the new in box 1974 model would. Some around here in 10 or 15 years will learn that game also.it was a heck of a ride. for many decades. And at some point we all slow down.when you travel at 180 mph the whole life, Later you want to coast at a 100 and it feels good.You did good with that MP-40 And glad the son enjoys it. Remember that design and look was way before its time.Herr Vollmer had aliens giving him pointers for sure.And Mr. K liked the stock so much he decided his AK-47 needed one also. with that little space for the hand guard.enjoy. Colt21A Ron


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Posted 11 July 2018 - 11:22 PM

its off to a local gun smith/friend for a refinish in 2 weeks....im going to have him look further into tightening things up even more.....really the stock is rock solid...it moves but you need to use all your strength to budge it.....

 

one of the main reasons i chose to do much of the work myself is the lack of gunsmiths...i really couldnt go wrong as the gun has always ran...my efforts were just cleaning it up and tightening it up...something anyone can do...for that stock i even used the feeler gauge trick...cut 2 feeler gauges for either side of the stock button...it takes up the wiggle between the stock and the button....took 1/4" of slop out of the stock right there....they are hidden under the button and the button pin goes through the holes in the gauges....found that one online somewhere....

 

the parts kit was the biggie...i will never understand why the original builder used a worn out parts kit.....when they were $25-50 why get a $25 one.......as for the rust setting in on it...many guys toss these guns in a basement or in a pile somewhere.....to them its still a $300 gun.......sad for the gun as its now a $16-18k gun....but to them they paid $300 for it in 1980 so why do they care.....now ive got to clean that mess up.....lucky it is just very,very minor surface rust and not pitting....1/2 of it came off with steel wool and oil....cant do that with the inside of the tube though

 

my son says its his favorite of my guns....he prefers its looks even to the thompson!! (not me)

That is so awesome, love the MP40!!


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