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#1 Petroleum 1

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Posted 15 April 2019 - 04:12 PM

Just picked up my 38/42 after a 9+ month wait. I did not notice when I bought it but the gun has that stamp on the stock I believe has something to do with the German mfg?? The gun is in mint condition and I bought it from the nephew of the vet that brought it back. He was a paratrooper and picked it up in France. I can see on that stock stamp '44 on it.

 

 

 

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Posted 15 April 2019 - 05:42 PM

The 38/42s were used by the German army, but made in Italy, not Germany. That stamp looks like the Pietro Beretta PB logo, but can't really tell for sure from the photo.


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Posted 15 April 2019 - 06:09 PM

It says

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UT

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Posted 15 April 2019 - 06:35 PM

Wow that thing is MINTY! Did you get a chance to shoot it yet?


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Posted 15 April 2019 - 07:18 PM

Yes I ran 10 magazines thru it today all of it on the fun trigger and the gun ran just great...completely smooth not one blip. If I had a choice going into battle as a German soldier I would take this Beretta over the MP40.


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Posted 15 April 2019 - 07:19 PM

I was watching an "Expedition Unknown" episode yesterday where the host unearthed one of these in a German forest.  Of course, it was in a sightly lesser condition.

 

Congratulations on your acquisition.  It's a beauty!

 

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Posted 15 April 2019 - 08:09 PM

It's like a fine Italian shotgun.......except finer IMO, and you can still trap shoot with it.


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Posted 16 April 2019 - 08:41 AM

Beautiful.


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Posted 17 April 2019 - 08:55 AM

Yes I ran 10 magazines thru it today all of it on the fun trigger and the gun ran just great...completely smooth not one blip. If I had a choice going into battle as a German soldier I would take this Beretta over the MP40.

 

My understanding is many of the Germans liked the Beretta 38/42 better than the MP40 due to the higher magazine capacity (40 rounds) and reliability.

 

From a prior post, my understanding is the 4UT stamp was a German stamp when they took over the Beretta manufacturing facility when they occupied Northern Italy in WWII.  You shouldn't have to look back too far to find the prior post (I included a picture of the stamp on mine).  The stock has been glossed up some how or another.

 

A very nice gun!

 

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Posted 17 April 2019 - 09:11 AM

Here's the prior post I mention directly above:

 

http://www.machinegu...showtopic=21783

 

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Posted 17 April 2019 - 12:48 PM

Hi Robert yes i remember that thread we also discussed why that 38/42 went for $57k on RIA it had the 4UT mark on the stock. The stock on my gun was refinished by the vet who brought it back. Some of the beretta receivers have MP markings too but mine is a plain Jane just has the serial number, C3 and cal 9mm on it. The vet who picked up my beretta in France was a paratrooper so it has to be late 44 or 45 so my gun is late war model.

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Posted 17 April 2019 - 04:14 PM

Vin,

 

Mine is marked MP38/42 on the top of the receiver.  I was thinking yours looked like a MP38/43 (smooth barrel).

 

No such markings on yours it sounds like.  What's it say on the Form 4?

 

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Posted 17 April 2019 - 04:56 PM

Vin,
 
Mine is marked MP38/42 on the top of the receiver.  I was thinking yours looked like a MP38/43 (smooth barrel).
 
No such markings on yours it sounds like.  What's it say on the Form 4?
 
Robert

On the form 4 under Model it just says...military...here is a pic of the markings. I am guessing this gun would be considered a 38/43 with the smooth barrel and minimal markings.

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Posted 17 April 2019 - 04:58 PM

I think it's a Model 38/43 but others more knowledgeable can weigh in.

 

Nice gun.

 

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Posted 29 April 2019 - 10:08 AM

Really nice pickup, Vin


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Posted 29 April 2019 - 01:25 PM


Really nice pickup, Vin


Thx and i got a great deal on it too.
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Posted 30 April 2019 - 06:51 PM

I wonder how rare these guns are. They only come up 3-4x a year. Makes me think only 200 or less in the registry.

A gun that should be more popular than it is. Has everything the mp40 has going for it. Just not as cool looking. 1/2 the price for a very similar gun
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Posted 30 April 2019 - 10:46 PM

I agree huggy...Like i said on an earlier post i would take this sub gun over the MP40 if i was a German soldier.
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Posted 01 May 2019 - 02:36 PM

when comparing how common they are i like to compare to known guns and compare

 

we know there are 3000 Uzis....how many uzi's come up vs 38/42's?

 

i recently had someone give the opinion that there are 155 madsens out there...i see about as many 38/42's come up as madsens.

 

not an exact science, but if you compared over a long period of time off another gun with a known amount you could guess pretty close ill bet...

 

add the factor in there that some guns are popular and just not sold too..they are held onto and passed down

 

sure would be neat to see an accounting of all the guns in the registry....maybe when they confiscate them, they will list them?


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