Sig Posted April 2, 2005 Report Share Posted April 2, 2005 Should be interesting, doesn't say it is a Colt but if it is! Original matching serial numbers. One 50-round drum and two 20-round sticks. Good condition. Must sell in 30 days. Best offer over $15,000. Pictures available. Contact Information Name: Dan Smith Street Address: 831 Buckley Rd. City: Indiana State/Province: Pennsylvania Zip/Postal Code: 15701 Country: USA Telephone Number: 724-354-2576 E-Mail Address: desmar357@alltel.net Linky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lzxray Posted April 3, 2005 Report Share Posted April 3, 2005 It is a Colt in original finish with verifable S/N. He has received dozens and dozens calls. A lot of low ball offers from dealers, but this gun ain't selling at $15K as the selller is begining to realize the fulll market potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldFalGuy Posted April 3, 2005 Report Share Posted April 3, 2005 I just emailed him and then came here to see if it was mentioned. If his pics are good and it verifies out I might be a bidder. Matching nice Colt out to top $25K easily but if its 85% or less I am not. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotusnut Posted April 4, 2005 Report Share Posted April 4, 2005 Its now been changed to best offer over 25k ! http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/laugh.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldFalGuy Posted April 4, 2005 Report Share Posted April 4, 2005 Not suprising- never saw a pic of the gun- hope it ends well but with no way to check it........ M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig Posted April 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2005 Oh well it was a dream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland, Headless Thompson Gunner Posted April 4, 2005 Report Share Posted April 4, 2005 This was the best pic I got from Dan Smith. SN is 1236 http://photobucket.com/albums/y123/wje2204...t=DSC002152.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guy sajer Posted April 4, 2005 Report Share Posted April 4, 2005 Looks kinda rough . Possible attempt to remove pitting / rust on grip frame behind safety . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full auto 45 Posted April 4, 2005 Report Share Posted April 4, 2005 Looks like it's a $15k gun to me. No more then $20k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Jr Posted April 4, 2005 Report Share Posted April 4, 2005 QUOTE (full auto 45 @ Apr 4 2005, 02:06 PM) Looks like it's a $15k gun to me. No more then $20k agreed. There is like no finish left on it. I wouldn't pay 15 for it. Hell I wouldn't trade my SKS for that thing... http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland, Headless Thompson Gunner Posted April 4, 2005 Report Share Posted April 4, 2005 Added some more pics so have another go at this link: http://photobucket.com/albums/y123/wje2204/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Layton Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 For being about 85 years old and probably having a whole lot of history to it, I think it looks great. If I had the $$ right now, I'd buy it. I think it's a good looking Colt Thompson. I wish I owned it. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron A Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 All 21's are the same age - all have some history - interesting how each person looks at a gun. Easy to say if you had the money you would buy it. The gun is nothing special - finish appears to be poor. If you had the money - over $20,000. this gun would be a poor investment. You don't spend this kind of money for a dog - I agree with John Jr. - Thompson greed has not set in this far. This is the reason the gun has not sold. However! A fool is easly parted from his money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldFalGuy Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 It is odd that the only phot of the gun, the whole gun makes the finish look poor 85% ish but hte rest of them show a weapon with good blue. Ah the vagaries of digital photgraphy- I would have to see this one with my own eyes and if it looked as good as some of the pics I would go for it. Can't really tell if that is rust or grease up behind the mag catch lever- must be nothing good- I know I would have done a great wipedown if I was taking sales pictures. M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guy sajer Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 QUOTE Its now been changed to best offer over 25k ! What kind of games is this guy playing ? Now it says "Best offer over $26,000 " . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancer Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 QUOTE (guy sajer @ Apr 5 2005, 09:36 AM) What kind of games is this guy playing ? Now it says "Best offer over $26,000 " . My guess is he's letting everyone know what the current high offer is. He's basically running an auction, highest bidder gets it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 I've always hated that type of auction sale. Decide on a price and put it out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guy sajer Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 Exactly . If I were the guy that met his 2nd price of $25k , I would tell him to keep it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancer Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 QUOTE (Sig @ Apr 2 2005, 03:51 PM) Original matching serial numbers. One 50-round drum and two 20-round sticks. Good condition. Must sell in 30 days. Best offer over $15,000. Whether you like how he's selling it or not, you can't say he wasn't upfront about how he was going to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Jr Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 If I was the seller I would want the most I could get for it. Sounds like he has found a way to avoid the 50% JC Devine auction fees and hold his own auction. Good for him. Hope it brings a bundle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philasteen Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 People like to bitch about the rules at Sturmgewehr, but subguns tolerates this kind of ad and worse. I prefer Strumgewehr to this BS, if I want an auction I will go to Devine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merry Ploughboy Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 I have been led to understand the late J. Curtis Earl was known to refinish a '21 or two. I'd kinda think a lot of those are being sold now at $25K plus. Throw a fresh coat on this one and how is it any different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Fliegenheimer Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 Merry, If the buyer is incapable of recognizing a re-blue, then they will not know that the value of the weapon is about 40% less than one that was not re-blued. Any Colt TSMG that was in Earl's possession is suspect in more ways than just a re-bluing. But since there is such a premium on original finish, perhaps the market should be more appreciative of the unavoidable type of wear these 84 year-old weapons would accumulate over the years. Scratches, bluing diminution in handling areas and color deepening of the wood are to be expected on any firearm of this age. If there are entire areas of bluing loss, or conversely scratches that have been blued over, it should be obvious that these two finishes are pretty much equal in devaluation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimFromFL Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 It is great that he is trying to get the most cash, but he needs to be upfront. If he wants an auction then place it on the acution board. I may just tell he $40K to bump up the price some more than tell him I changed my mind. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/tongue.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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