Petroleum 1 Posted March 6, 2019 Report Share Posted March 6, 2019 This Thompson has the "x" at the end of the sn but the US and the A1 remain intact?? Didnt they grind off the US and re-stamp the 1 into a c?? https://machineguncentral.com/ViewDetails.aspx?p=748--e93ec417-72bc-4c80-a6e1-7a5a68be7bc1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gijive Posted March 6, 2019 Report Share Posted March 6, 2019 (edited) This Thompson has the "x" at the end of the sn but the US and the A1 remain intact?? Didnt they grind off the US and re-stamp the 1 into a c?? https://machineguncentral.com/ViewDetails.aspx?p=748--e93ec417-72bc-4c80-a6e1-7a5a68be7bc1 Petroleum 1,In most cases they did, but there is really nothing consistent with the Maguire Industries, Post WWII (in most cases), Thompsons that were marketed to law enforcement from leftover 1928 Models and parts. They are almost exclusively AOC receivers and grip frames with a mix of other parts. I remember reading somewhere that the X suffix may have indicated a duplicate serial number, but I don't believe that applies to the Post WWII sales to law enforcement, I have seen guns with the X and without. In most cases, the US and A1 were altered as you described. This gun may be just a parts gun and not one of the Maguire Industries sales to law enforcement., although the serial number range on the gun pictured certainly fits in the range generally associated with these guns. Someone would probably have to do an FOIA request to be sure. Edited March 6, 2019 by gijive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAW23015 Posted March 6, 2019 Report Share Posted March 6, 2019 They did on mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petroleum 1 Posted March 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2019 He has 3 Thompsons for sale from his collection and each one has something weird going on with it. The WH M1A1 has arsenal stampings on it?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimcrew Posted March 6, 2019 Report Share Posted March 6, 2019 He has 3 Thompsons for sale from his collection and each one has something weird going on with it. The WH M1A1 has arsenal stampings on it?? I was wondering about that one, as well. Did WH use surplus parts early on? I thought Numrich ran out of receivers, and all WH guns were built on newly manufactured receivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petroleum 1 Posted March 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2019 (edited) He has 3 Thompsons for sale from his collection and each one has something weird going on with it. The WH M1A1 has arsenal stampings on it?? I was wondering about that one, as well. Did WH use surplus parts early on? I thought Numrich ran out of receivers, and all WH guns were built on newly manufactured receivers.There would be no way the receiver could have those armory markings and WH stamped on it too. The American Thunder book says WH made 609 of the MI's in 1985 no mention of surplus parts being used. Edited March 6, 2019 by Petroleum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridgeport28A1 Posted March 6, 2019 Report Share Posted March 6, 2019 As gijive mentioned that X suffix may indicate a duplicate serial number in certain circumstances with military issued small arms. I was issued a TRW M14 Rifle with a X suffix, serial number 1512512X, TRW has duplicated serial numbers in an assigned H&R serial number block. It may not be the case with this AOC 1928A1. I couldnt tell if there were any military acceptance stamps present on the AOC X gun. If his West Hurley M1 has military stamps they were likely added and not correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMG28 Posted March 6, 2019 Report Share Posted March 6, 2019 The stamps on the West Hurley are obviously faked. The font is wrong, as is the size, and whoever did it didnt know that the the letters in the circle are GEG, not CEC. Likely a sad example of someone trying to enhance the value of their gun. I agree with the other comments about the AO 1928. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black River Militaria CII Posted March 7, 2019 Report Share Posted March 7, 2019 If the X suffix is indicative of a duplicate serial number, how did they know? How did “they” keep track to know that any serial was a duplicate at the time when the guns were assembled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full auto 45 Posted March 8, 2019 Report Share Posted March 8, 2019 He has 3 Thompsons for sale from his collection and each one has something weird going on with it. The WH M1A1 has arsenal stampings on it?? It says the "CRISP FJA, CEC , P ON STOCK. Not on the receiver. However "US PROPERTY MARKED,BULLET LOGO" if that is on the receiver, it would be a non original marking.The serial number on this is M61. That is interesting, as it is not in the WH range, unless a special number? THERE WERE 609 M1 FULL-AUTO THOMPSONS PRODUCED. PRODUCTION BEGAN FOR THIS MODEL IN 1985. THE FIRST SERIAL NUMBER WAS M100A AND ENDED WITH M717A. SERIAL NUMBERS M100A - M174A WERE MANUFACTURED IN 1985 AND M175A - M717A WERE MANUFACTURED IN 1986. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohawk64 Posted March 8, 2019 Report Share Posted March 8, 2019 I would R U N N O F T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Mills Posted March 8, 2019 Report Share Posted March 8, 2019 I would R U N N O F T.That made my day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnshooter Posted March 8, 2019 Report Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) Obviously that Hurly M1 was accidentally sent through the M1 Garand inspection line .During the... Gulf War... Yeah, that's it... The last two digits of the serial No. were blurred out. Edited March 8, 2019 by mnshooter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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