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#1 gijive

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Posted 27 May 2019 - 02:49 PM

With permission from the site owner I am listing my 1928 Model Navy Overstamp Colt's Thompson Submachine Gun for sale.  The gun was one of two purchased by the Oak Park, Illinois, Police Department in June of 1934.  The gun is a beautiful example of a police Thompson and is in excellent condition with normal wear associated with a police gun that saw service for over thirty years.  The gun was purchased, along the other department 1928 Navy Model, by a dealer/collector in 1970.  I purchased the gun directly from the dealer's son, who inherited the gun from his father's estate, in 2004.  The gun comes with two original twenty round magazines, a 1st generation Worcester L drum, and the original police hard case purchased with the gun 1934.  The gun, XX magazines are drum are marked with the numeral 2, indicating it was the second of the department's two guns.  The case has been professionally restored as it had suffered storage damage and was falling apart.  The restorer used most of the existing parts and wood frame but the black velvet interior, and faux leather cover material had to be replaced.

 

This is a chance to own a well kept, lightly used, original police Colt's Thompson in collector-grade condition.  The only major flaws are several pivot-plate scratches from the gun being taken apart and cleaned over the years.  There is very little wear to the compensator, actuator slot, and other areas of the original finish.  The barrel bore is in excellent shape as well as the wood.  The gun was obviously lightly used and well taken care of.  The gun is registered on a Form 4.  There are lots of photographs and paperwork documenting the gun's provenance that will be available to a new owner.  There are fifty or so photos of the gun available for examination as well.  There are too many to post here, PM for further information, photographs and asking price.

 

Shown below are photographs of a display at the Michigan Antique Arms Show in 2017, old newspaper articles from the local Oak Park newspaper and recent photos available to prospective buyers.

 

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Posted 27 May 2019 - 06:25 PM

What’s the price?
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Posted 27 May 2019 - 07:09 PM

What’s the price?

Sent you a private email (PM).


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Posted 28 May 2019 - 05:41 AM

Very nice Thompson package.

Besides the nice Navy, I really like the Books Trunk Co case. If you have the need to separate the package deal

keep me in mind. I hope everything is good with you, generally people sell off their Colts due to a life changing event.

Take care,

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Posted 28 May 2019 - 08:12 AM

Very nice Thompson package.

Besides the nice Navy, I really like the Books Trunk Co case. If you have the need to separate the package deal

keep me in mind. I hope everything is good with you, generally people sell off their Colts due to a life changing event.

Take care,

Darryl

Darryl,

 

I certainly will keep you in mind if I separate the package.  Thanks for your kind thoughts, everything is okay, just changing directions on a few things, not getting any younger either:-)


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Posted 28 May 2019 - 05:05 PM

It is called enjoy the money now, Not wait till you are under grass. And others give it away or junk it. and that goes for all good stuff not just Thompsons, And a nice outstanding gun from a well known P.D. town outside Chicago.Chuck a real nice well kept and preserved Piece of History there.Ron 


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Posted 29 May 2019 - 07:50 AM

It is called enjoy the money now, Not wait till you are under grass. And others give it away or junk it. and that goes for all good stuff not just Thompsons, And a nice outstanding gun from a well known P.D. town outside Chicago.Chuck a real nice well kept and preserved Piece of History there.Ron 

Ron,

 

Thanks for your kind words. I appreciate it coming from an old "Chi-Town" Thompson guy like yourself.  Lot's of history in Oak Park, especially with the gangsters back in the 1920's and 1930's, not as much as Berwyn and Cicero (would like to get their guns), but some of the old "Outfit" guys lived in Oak Park.  Yes, this gun survived surprisingly well.

 

The automobile that Assistant State's Attorney William McSwiggin was riding in the night of April 27, 1926 was dumped in Oak Park at 835 S. Elmwood Ave. after McSwiggin's body was removed from the scene of the killing at Harry Madigan`s Pony Inn at 5613 W. Roosevelt Rd. in Cicero.  McSwiggin was a Cook County Prosecutor that was friendly with the West-Side of Chicago Irish gangsters led by brothers William "Klondike" and Myles O'Donnell.  They stopped at a saloon in Cicero one evening that had just stopped selling beer supplied by the Capone Organization and were machine-gunned as they stepped from the car to enter the saloon.  Capone was suspected of actually wielding the Thmpson in this shooting.   McSwiggin and two other West-Side gangsters were killed.  McSwiggins body was removed form the scene before police arrival and his body was dumped in Berwyn.  The car was abandoned in Oak Park and was discovered the following morning full of bullet holes.

 

Car abandoned in front of 835 S. Elmwood Ave.      Chicago Police Chief of Detective's John Stege at the scene.    Another view of abandoned auto

 

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835 S. Elmwood Ave. as it looked in 2005.                          Composite before and after photo.

 

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That is today's Chicago Gangster History Lesson.  Further information for interested parties can be found at the following link:

 

http://chicagocrimes...9/pony-inn.html


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Posted 29 May 2019 - 11:50 AM

Chuck all great stuff there. the two guns you mention are still there.My cousins Husband  before he retired from Cook county sheriffs he checked out the Cicero gun.it is outstanding on the outside however over the years corrosive was put through it with no cleaning. the barrel and inside of upper is fully pitted. sad day on that one. I give you're gun a five star for cond. and history.I told a Friend in town about it last night And said buy it.People get few chances in life to get something honest.  And this is it.

 

thanks for the info Chuck you are still back in the land of the gangsters. Not all bad as we grew up with all of it.RON


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Posted 29 May 2019 - 01:00 PM

Ron,

The thing I enjoy spending my money on the most is buying Thompsons.

What am I to do ?????????

Jim C


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Posted 29 May 2019 - 06:56 PM

Don't know which Ron you refer to there are a few here but yes Thompson dough is well spent.

It took a huge part of my life...and wallet..RON

the first second or third one/ 


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Posted 29 May 2019 - 11:23 PM

Please PM the price...Thank you.


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Posted 31 May 2019 - 10:31 PM


It is called enjoy the money now, Not wait till you are under grass. And others give it away or junk it. and that goes for all good stuff not just Thompsons, And a nice outstanding gun from a well known P.D. town outside Chicago.Chuck a real nice well kept and preserved Piece of History there.Ron 

Ron,
 
Thanks for your kind words. I appreciate it coming from an old "Chi-Town" Thompson guy like yourself.  Lot's of history in Oak Park, especially with the gangsters back in the 1920's and 1930's, not as much as Berwyn and Cicero (would like to get their guns), but some of the old "Outfit" guys lived in Oak Park.  Yes, this gun survived surprisingly well.
 
The automobile that Assistant State's Attorney William McSwiggin was riding in the night of April 27, 1926 was dumped in Oak Park at 835 S. Elmwood Ave. after McSwiggin's body was removed from the scene of the killing at Harry Madigan`s Pony Inn at 5613 W. Roosevelt Rd. in Cicero.  McSwiggin was a Cook County Prosecutor that was friendly with the West-Side of Chicago Irish gangsters led by brothers William "Klondike" and Myles O'Donnell.  They stopped at a saloon in Cicero one evening that had just stopped selling beer supplied by the Capone Organization and were machine-gunned as they stepped from the car to enter the saloon.  Capone was suspected of actually wielding the Thmpson in this shooting.   McSwiggin and two other West-Side gangsters were killed.  McSwiggins body was removed form the scene before police arrival and his body was dumped in Berwyn.  The car was abandoned in Oak Park and was discovered the following morning full of bullet holes.
 
Car abandoned in front of 835 S. Elmwood Ave.      Chicago Police Chief of Detective's John Stege at the scene.    Another view of abandoned auto
 
McSwiggin Car-835 S Elmwood, Oak Park 1926(1).jpg                        Captain Stege at McSwiggin Car-835 S. Elmwood, Oak Park(1).jpg                                     McSwiggin Car-835 S. Elmwood,Oak Park 1926.jpg
 
835 S. Elmwood Ave. as it looked in 2005.                          Composite before and after photo.
 
835 S. Elmwood Today RGB.jpg                  835 S. Elmwood Before and After.jpg
 
That is today's Chicago Gangster History Lesson.  Further information for interested parties can be found at the following link:
 
http://chicagocrimes...9/pony-inn.html

Chuck,

I love these type of "then and now" photos.

Everyone,

Feel confident in dealing with Chuck. I've known him for 14 years now, and consider him a very good friend. We have had beers together in many different venues. He is a cut above, and I thank him for his LE service, as well as his civilian service to our country in harm's way. Not to mention the service of his namesake son, as well.

David Albert
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Posted 01 June 2019 - 10:39 AM

I second David's comments,. Met Chuck years ago at one of Tracy's shoots. I did not know a lot of people there and he reached  out to me and made me feel right at home. !00% honest and a real stand up guy. Great source for all Thompson related items. Have kept in touch over the years and am proud to call him a good friend. 


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Posted 02 June 2019 - 08:06 AM

What’s the price?

 

There's not a rule here that nothing gets offered without a price? 


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Posted 02 June 2019 - 09:07 AM

I mentioned price upon request, but in the interest of not violating any Board policies, I am asking $50,000.00 for the package.
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Posted 02 June 2019 - 05:34 PM

Chuck,

I am not aware of a requirement that price be listed. The main purpose of machinegunboards is not a marketplace. Its not like USmilitariaforum.

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Posted 03 June 2019 - 06:14 AM

Nuce hopefully ill have one some day original or not
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Posted 03 June 2019 - 01:12 PM


Whats the price?

 
There's not a rule here that nothing gets offered without a price? 

I didnt say there was. I was just asking for the price.
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Posted 03 June 2019 - 09:29 PM

I have a friend looking at my own gun which I wont sell. 

He wants something  minty. Hes' spent a hundred grand plus on some of my other stuff.


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Posted 03 June 2019 - 10:30 PM

Hook am up.
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