Mg42 And Mg34-both Gustloff Assembled Guns-1939 And 1943 Dated.

[drm2m]

Two Gustloff assembled guns-MG42 1943 dated and MG34 1939 dated.

Gustloff's code "dfb" on the 42 and "936" on the 34.

 

 

http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/DSC01121-1.jpg

 

 

http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/MG42dewatGustloffassembleddated1943.jpg

 

 

http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/MG42showingGustloffs1943codeDSC0930.jpg

 

 

http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/272kbsTopcoverSnwaA-2.jpg

 

 

http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/MG42dewatcockandclickdeactivationDS.jpg

 

 

MG42 sling markings.

 

http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/DSC05781.jpg

 

 

 

MG34 receiver markings.

 

 

 

http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/Gustloffscode936WaA4onMG34sin1939.jpg

 

 

The MG42 shown with some other German stuff.

 

 

http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/1944datedP38hardshellholster.jpg

 

 

 

http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/244kbsMG42ammunitionbeltonMG34MG42b.jpg

 

 

David

Edited September 16, 2009 by drm2m

[RoscoeTurner]

Are you located in Canada?

 

Are the MGs functional?

[drm2m]

In answer to your questions Roscoe.

 

Yes I live in Canada.

 

Both the MG42 and the MG34 have been deactivated

 

I bought the MG42 from the gun smith that deactivated the gun from full auto....the gun was then legally deregistered.

 

Full auto ownership in Canada is grandfathered....the cut off date was January 1 1978...I did not own a legal registered full auto at that time.

 

As of January 1 1978 I believe there were 5000 legally registered full autos in Canada.

 

I am licensed to own full autos that have been legally converted to semi auto.

I have four guns that fit into this category and are registered as such.

 

Permits to transport full auto or converted auto guns to a range are no longer available.

 

Transfer of ownership of these types of guns is restricted to buyers that are licensed (grandfathered) to own either full auto or converted autos.....these are two distinctly different categories.

 

Deactivated guns do not currently require any kind of registration…(for now) so anyone can own them.

 

It is a pretty restricted market for live machineguns in Canada.....and gradually shrinking as time passes.

 

David

Edited September 16, 2009 by drm2m

[RoscoeTurner]

Thanks. I was aware of the restrictions in Canada.

 

I had a dfb MG42 date code MU but I traded if off about twenty years ago. I do have a dfb 1941 MG34.

[drm2m]

Roscoe do you regret having parted with that gun?

 

It is so easy to look back and know.....hindsight is so clear.

 

 

I am very leery about adding more converted autos to my collection as the current deactivation regulations are more stringent than what they once were.

 

Two of my deactivated guns have fully functioning cocking and dry firing actions that is no longer possible.

They are both in superb condition with wonderful markings.

 

This means nothing for people that are used to live full auto guns.

It is like taking a shower with your socks on.....or having no feet.....for the socks!

They were alive and well until they were given a vasectomy.

 

These guns remain a reflection of history....perhaps having been there...and done that?

And then we wake them up from a deep sleep and try and shoot them in 2009.

 

The deactivated guns in Canada "perhaps" command the same ...if not a greater price than live guns...with a much greater buying audience....the demand for this stuff is alive and well as the supply is limited.

 

If you pay $5,000 CDN for a nice gun...that is alot. (This applies to a live full auto/converted auto or a deactivated gun.)

 

Canada is a very different world compared to the U.S. in this regard. The demand/supply dynamic for original pre 68 C&R guns in the U.S. perhaps explains that.

 

Canada is "perhaps" more like the U.K. and Australia....except that most live Milsurp and hunting guns are still very much permitted in Canada. (Including handguns.)

 

 

The four full auto guns that I own in a converted to semi auto configuration are shown below.

 

I don't know what the regulations will be like when it comes time to part with them....I am not looking forward to that day.

 

David

 

 

 

http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/Croppedresizedfullleftsideofgunanda.jpg

 

 

 

I don't think many of these British Lanchester Mk1* smgs (full auto only-no selective fire) found their way into the U.S.

 

http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/BritishWWIILanchestersubmachinegun.jpg

 

Original finish on these Lanchester smgs is not common....this one is original I think?

 

 

http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/Topofmaghousingmarkings-1.jpg

 

 

The 50 round magazines for the Lanchester smg. (9mm Parabellum)

 

 

http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/FiftyroundLanchestermagazines-restr.jpg

 

 

 

http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/LanchesterPhotosDecember42005011-1.jpg

 

 

 

 

http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/240kbsLighterDSC04645.jpg

 

 

 

http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd346/drm2m/WWIIGermanMP44-thefirstassaultrifle.jpg

Edited September 17, 2009 by drm2m

[RoscoeTurner]

I do not regret getting rid of the MG42, it was a pain to get it to function properly. It was worn out and at the time parts were extremely hard to come by.

 

Of the C3 firearms I have sold or traded only two I miss; a Browning 1919A4 and a Savage M1A1. I have since bought two M1A1s, a Savage and a Bridgeport but I miss that first Thompson, it was a mint museum piece.

[drm2m]

Roscoe,

 

The interesting part about this passion....is that you singled out some very special pieces that you remember in a very particular way.

 

Perhaps... it is like a guy that was married many times.....when he reflects back on his memories of his favourite wives???? (Your MG42 is not included.)

 

David

 

 

NOTE;

 

For many years I was principally a U.S. Civil War collector....in fact...I still am.

 

I have never sold a piece ...so I don't know how that sense of divorce feels.

Edited September 17, 2009 by drm2m

[junglewalk]

Outrageous fire-arms regs in Canada!.....Is there a fight in your 'parliment' to turn the tide, and go back to a 2nd amendment nation?

 

(also, your mg rounds are backwards in the mg belt links in your photo)