Atllaw Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 Hi all. I am a long time viewer, but recent member of the board. I have a few NFA items but now am looking for what will probably be my first and onlly Thompson. Not any particular hurry (how can you be in the NFA/BATF wait times) but would like to find a solid early Savage 1928 or Colt overstamp. One of the early Savage British guns (pre lend lease) would be perfect. Nothing pristine because I wouldnt want to have something I would feel bad shooting (and let my teenage sons) shoot. Really amazing amount of knowledge here and it has truly been a great experience learning from all of you. Thanks to all. Will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taeelec Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 There's a really nice Savage M1928A1 listed on Subguns.com right now. It's not an early pre lend lease gun but you might wanna check it out. The seller is Franks Guns/ Midwest Tactical. I've purchased from them before and it's always been a positive experience. Todd in Oregon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atllaw Posted August 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 Thanks Todd. I am more partial to the earlier guns without the smooth actuator and Franks prices seem a little on the high side, but do appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merry Ploughboy Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 (edited) Welcome to the board! FWIW, Western Firearms (the owner is a member here - board name 'firearm') has two early Savage Model 1928 Thompsons for sale. Sit down at your computer station. At the linked page, Scroll down past the Colt Thompsons: https://www.westernfirearms.com/wfc/thompson?sz=800x600 Best of luck with your quest! ETA: After I posted the above, I noticed that there is also a movie gun Savage 1928A1 mixed in with the Colt Thompsons. Edited August 17, 2018 by Merry Ploughboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBill Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 If you are patient and you have checked out the asking prices on the above post (four Colt Navies 49K and three at $47K....Morphys Auction in Denver Pa. will have a very nice correct Colt Navy in there Oct 29 sale,accessories include a old repro police case,numbered L drum and three patent date stick mags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huggytree Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 are you looking for a Savage commercial or a later WW2 1928a1 ? you may be looking for 12+ months if your wanting a S1928 commercial...the early ones dont come up often and last one i saw was $30k + there was one on GB for $40k for the past 12 months....probably still there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atllaw Posted August 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 Yes, I saw the Western Firearms and they are a little out of my price range. Happy to wait and certainly will check out the one in the October auction. Doesnt seem like the catalog is even out yet.A early/ commercial Savage would be great and can be patient. Again, appreciate all the help here in the search. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc269 Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 Atllaw, you have definitely stopped at the right place I bought one a few years back, and these guys have helped me immensely. I lucked out an a found a decent early savage when I really didn't know one from another. But I can guarantee if I had known this group of guys were here I would have had their stamp of approval before dropping large bills on a purchase. Good luck. And I can tell you this... Don't come back saying you bought one without pictures. LOL. These guys love pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huggytree Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 only seen a few come up for sale in the 3 years ive been here....last one was $30,000+ a few months ago good choice (its what i have) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron_brock Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 Good ones come up for sale before hitting the internet too. Sometimes you gotta leave the computer chair in this market. Keep us posted on what you find or have questions about. Theres lots of nuances and more info uncovered all the time. Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atllaw Posted August 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 Thanks guys. I am already enjoying the hunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indochinavet Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 Atllaw, there is one nice early Savage 1928 right now on GB https://www.gunbroker.com/item/784383585 price seems on spot, and condition is amazing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bug Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 Not sure I ever heard that one. Recon Ord, is that still Gerry Prasser? Bob D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantpanda4 Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atllaw Posted August 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 Thanks guys. Really appreciate the heads up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD. Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 Could someone ask the seller how he knows this early Savage Thompson was manufactured using a Colt's receiver manufactured in 1921/1922? While this is an early Savage Thompson, it is not that early of a production Savage Thompson (over 15,000 guns into production). I would suggest any prospective sellers obtain all the past available ATF forms on this Savage. The current seller knows where he obtained it and can probably find out where the seller obtained it with a telephone call (and secure a copy of that form). This Savage has some historical promise but beware of the sellers puffing. Do not buy the story! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bug Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 That was my point Tom. GP should know better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indochinavet Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 (edited) Could someone ask the seller how he knows this early Savage Thompson was manufactured using a Colt's receiver manufactured in 1921/1922? While this is an early Savage Thompson, it is not that early of a production Savage Thompson (over 15,000 guns into production). I would suggest any prospective sellers obtain all the past available ATF forms on this Savage. The current seller knows where he obtained it and can probably find out where the seller obtained it with a telephone call (and secure a copy of that form). This Savage has some historical promise but beware of the sellers puffing. Do not buy the story! if he says this is a Early Savage is made from Colt parts, we should assume all the ones before 31k were made from Colt parts....probably they reconditioned and used them yes, however i think the seller is not educated on the matter and is just guessing becauseof the earlier stamps / features... i still think its a great great looking gun Edited August 30, 2018 by indochinavet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atllaw Posted August 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 Seller says that the barrel has an "R" mark on it. Haven't seen a picture yet. Are there R marked barrels which would have been original to the gun? Also, the buttstock seems a lot lighter than the rest of the wood. Is that concerning to anyone? He confirmed that it is all Savage parts on the internals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indochinavet Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 (edited) it looks to me there could be an anchor on that buttstock too, if you see the pictures you can spot something like a mark there. I would ask anyway more photos of it. compensator its correct being a type 2 (no bullet logo) grip is definitely a pretty nice sample of Savage P.s this one bought by "Harris" is definitely a more desirable being an earlier one,it also ended up 2k+.. https://www.morphyauctions.com/jamesdjulia/item/53085-1-402/ Edited August 30, 2018 by indochinavet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD. Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 An "R" marked barrel. Yes, please post a picture of that. Over 15,000 unmarked Colt's receivers reconditioned by Savage Arms and sold by Auto-Ordnance? Really. This seller knows (or should know) there are differences in the markings of late Colt's and early Savage receivers. Again, ask for documentation but buy the gun, not the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indochinavet Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 An "R" marked barrel. Yes, please post a picture of that. Over 15,000 unmarked Colt's receivers reconditioned by Savage Arms and sold by Auto-Ordnance? Really. This seller knows (or should know) there are differences in the markings of late Colt's and early Savage receivers. Again, ask for documentation but buy the gun, not the story. Me i was just trolling! i dont think Colt ever made double the receivers they needed for their contract..maybe Savage just have used a few internal spare parts on the first ones.. even a Colt buttstock wouldn t be correct at all for that gun considering its its "early" but not so early status... surely increases its value, sell the buttstock buy a proper one saves 2k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atllaw Posted August 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 Will do once I receive it. Would the swing swivel in the buttstock be appropriate for this gun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indochinavet Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 Yes Atllaw, the sling swivel buttstock is proper for this model, but the WW2 type is the correct one (with no late reinforcing bolt) a Colt buttstock on this gun would be only an added value but mismatching. P.s i dont know if thats a Colt buttstock, i would ask for more photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gijive Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 Will do once I receive it. Would the swing swivel in the buttstock be appropriate for this gun?Atllaw, As Indochinavet pointed out, yes the early Savage guns had buttstock swivels with the Springfield 03 Rifle type milled sling swivel. It would be correct for that gun. The color of the wood is not an issue, quite often the front and rear pistol grips are somewhat darker with age and handling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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