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Don't you guys just love those smooth Colt ejectors, no unsightly

rivets and such...well I spoke to PK a while ago, picked up a surplus ejector

and well, PK took over.

Welded the nib and ejector screw, milled down the rivets, and Viola!

Check it out and get one today!!!

 

http://thompson.gotdns.com/zamm/ZammEjectA.jpg

http://thompson.gotdns.com/zamm/ZammEjectB.jpg

http://thompson.gotdns.com/zamm/ZammEjectC.jpg

 

And on the semi:

http://thompson.gotdns.com/zamm/ZammEjFramB.jpg

 

 

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And I am sure it was marked with the distinctive "K"? Cost?
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Mr. Rust,

Did not ask PK to put his mark on it, but there's a Savage "S" stamped

on the underside, so I quess this one is safe.

Have not worked out the cost with PK yet.

Well, do ya like it?? http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/smile.gif

Zamm

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I didn't think. Of coure it is already stamped. Love it!

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Hey, I just realized how funny the title of this thread sounds with

all the talk going on about repros and originals and the such. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif

 

Just want to make it clear that this was a little project to pimp out

my Westy and not to pull the wool over anybodys eyes. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/sad.gif

Allrighty then, on we go.

Zamm

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Zamm and PK

That is beautiful work...and a nice looking West Hurley. I want one for my Westy. Please e-mail me the price and availability. I know you will have a lot of customers for this item.

Thanks for sharing. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif

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If you look around, you can find original Savage one piece flat top milled ejectors (at least you could 7-8 years ago at OOW). The milled ejector has a thicker flat than the three piece ejector.

 

BTW, what is an original Colt ejector worth?

 

Doug

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Zamm asked to try this and I think it came out alright. It won’t be expensive to do, but I want him to put some miles on his before we try to make a “product” out of this. I am going to make another & run it in my gun for a while. If anyone else wants to be a guinea pig and provide an ejector for conversion, I’ll do 3 more for testing at nominal cost. You have to be willing to shoot the heck out of ‘um (tough assignment) and report back.

 

E mail if interested.

 

AZDoug- not easy to find any flat ejector now days, and when you do you had better have a fat wallet. I know some members have been successful in their search for such this last year and would encourage them to share the results of this effort with the board.

 

PS, the intention is not to duplicate a Colt or Savage part, just do something cleaner than a riveted part.

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Just looking at the pictures, the ejector appears to be identical to the two early Savage milled ejectors that I have been able to collect over the last 3 years. These originals were quite pricey as they are/were pretty rare and as I understand it, Savage only made a very few of the commercial guns that these would have been found on. They may even be left over Colt ejectors that Savage stamped with their S. I'm not sure.

 

I'm very pleased with the craftsmanship of the gentlemen making the recent duplicates. First, an excellent spare parts box duplicate and now an excellent early Savage commercial ejector duplicate. Both marked exactly the same as the originals. Doesn't bother me though as I know mine are original and I didn't buy them to sell or to try to make a huge profit on.

 

I hope some of this skill can be focused on some duplicate Thompson canvas items in the near future.

 

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Moor,

Just so no one gets the wrong idea.

What PK and I were after was a smooth ejector in the "manner" of a commercial ejector without the studs.

I don't think either of us was out to " duplicate" an original.

This is a stand alone piece, with major differences from other smooth ejectors. The biggest, and I suppose telltale difference is that the metal plate/spring is slightly thinner then previously manufactured ejectors.

It's just an item to increase the curb appeal of a Thompson, not a replica of an existing part.

best, Zamm

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Zamm,

I suspected that holding both an original and your smooth ejector in hand would probably reveal some differences. But in those pictures they look identical to the originals.

That is some fine work and I think it looks great on your gun. I put one of my original Savage commerical ejectors on a 28A1 for the same reason. It just plain looks good (the gun had been refinished in the past and is blued now). Wouldn't look right on an all original Auto Ordnance 28A1 but for the refinished/blue 28A1 it looks perfect.

Thanks for sharing the photos. Maybe one day I will take the time to figure out how to post some pictures on the board.

Regards

 

 

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Let’s be absolutely clear on this- the ejector shown in the photos is a converted military, 1928a1, riveted ejector made by Savage as so marked. I simply machined away the rivet heads, welded the parts in place and refinished. Examination would reveal to anyone knowledgeable that this was a rework, not an original milled part.

 

But, it sure looks better on a ‘commercial’ finished gun than the riveted part.

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There can be no mistaking PK's part from a savage original. the original flat bridge piece is thicker than PK's spring steel welded piece. I tried making some spring/welded pieces like this several years ago, but couldn't get the heat treatment right and the spring didn't sproing anymore (It was soft and bent). Or maybe I am just a crappy welder and took all the temper out of it.

 

From memory, the backstrap on a Savage or Colt original is about 50% thicker than on this weldment, also, the machined piece has radius roots at the threaded ejector and the holding nub.

 

It sounds like somebody is sitting on a pile of Savage ejectors....:-) I paid $5 each for my savage machined ejectors in 1995.

 

Doug

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AZDoug,

 

As PK says, it's just a modified original Savage ejector. Nothing new has been manufactured... http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/wink.gif

 

And I do agree with you, it looks bitching on a blued gun, all smooth and shiny http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/smile.gif

Whereas the riveted ejector would look fantastic on say an M1, M1A or dulite 28 and this would be quite out of place...

The Savage ejectors seem to be plentyful from Gunparts/Numrich for 15.00... NOS stock, unused and in great shape.

take care,

Zamm

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This morning I brought one of the Savage milled ejectors and a Savage three piece ejector to work to measure the thickness with a micrometer.

 

Savage military 3 peice ejector = 0.0323"

 

Savage commercial milled ejector = 0.0394"

 

Yes the milled ejector is thicker and if I hold the two together I can see that it is thicker with my naked eye but the difference is very subtle.

Now that I am holding the two side-by-side, the really clear difference is the width of the flat bridge piece. The military ejector is much wider than the commercial.

 

Savage military 3 piece ejector = 0.389"

 

Savage commercial milled ejector = 0.307" (exact same as the Colt ejector)

 

 

 

From the information that I have been exposed to, there were not that many commercial Savage model1928 Thompsons made. And as I understand it, some were made using some original Colt parts that were left in Auto Ordnance inventory.

I don't know how many Savage commercial ejectors were available in 1995 but it took me three years to acquire the two that I have (2001-2004). And there has been a slight price increase from the 1995 prices.

 

 

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