gijive Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 (edited) Just a short tribute to actor George Segal who died yesterday at age 87. He played Pete Gusenberg in the 1967 Roger Corman film, "The St. Valentine's Day Massacre. Just a short clip from one of my favorite scenes in the movie. The St.Valentine's Day Massacre (1967) - Jason Robards(1).mov Edited March 24, 2021 by gijive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD. Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 A great scene. Thank you for posting. While very realistic, I think a C drum would be the better choice for the Thompson gun given the length of fire I like how the actuator or bolt was cocked when George got out of the car and the actuator stayed in the closed position when he finished firing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Fliegenheimer Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 George Segal in 1962 "The Longest Day" with BARIn 1966 "Les Centurions" with Carbine and MAT 49 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gijive Posted March 24, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 Nice stills, Arthur. Thanks for posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob241 Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 It is my understanding that a thompson drum does not have a hold open built into the drum, like a magazine, so if the drum was empty the actuator would go to the closed position, someone that has fired a thompson using a drum would know if this is correct, I only know what I have read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M17ap Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 Don’t forget Bridge at Remagen , great WWII movie ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gijive Posted March 24, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 It is my understanding that a thompson drum does not have a hold open built into the drum, like a magazine, so if the drum was empty the actuator would go to the closed position, someone that has fired a thompson using a drum would know if this is correct, I only know what I have read.Bob, Yes, that is correct. The bolt closes on an empty chamber after the rounds are exhausted in the original Thompson drum magazine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gijive Posted March 24, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 Another short clip of the bully Peter Gusenberg near the opening of the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Fliegenheimer Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 Nice stills, Arthur. Thanks for posting. A remarkably versatile actor.Here he is in 1969 "Bridge At Remagen" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gijive Posted March 24, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 Nice stills, Arthur. Thanks for posting. A remarkably versatile actor.Here he is in 1969 "Bridge At Remagen" George Segal Bridge At Regan 1969 M1 Carbine with 30rd.jpgYes, Arthur. Well-versed in WWII firearms technology, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full auto 45 Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 All the firing on the sidewalk, and not one shell casing on the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRMCII Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 Or in the air......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppgcowboy Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 It is my understanding that a thompson drum does not have a hold open built into the drum, like a magazine, so if the drum was empty the actuator would go to the closed position, someone that has fired a thompson using a drum would know if this is correct, I only know what I have read.I think TD's comment was referring to Hollywood actually getting it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpw43 Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 It is my understanding that a thompson drum does not have a hold open built into the drum, like a magazine, so if the drum was empty the actuator would go to the closed position, someone that has fired a thompson using a drum would know if this is correct, I only know what I have read.Usually in the movies they get it wrong and show someone walking around with a drum and the actuator in the forward position indicating it's empty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpw43 Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 My favorite George Segal movie is "The Black Bird" where he plays Sam Spade's son.Sort of a sequel to "The Maltese Falcon." I think it's on YouTube 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalbert Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 Hi Chuck, I meant to wish you a happy birthday yesterday. Hope you had a good day, and I also hope well all see you at an event later this year. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gijive Posted March 25, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 Hi Chuck, I meant to wish you a happy birthday yesterday. Hope you had a good day, and I also hope well all see you at an event later this year. DavidThanks, Dave. Hope to see you as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colt21a Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 Great actor and a good movie and they never set foot in Chicago to film it all back lot and stage stuff. At least in Untouchables on a larger scale they had to make the trip.I watched that one for the better part of 30 plus years on Valentines day and did the reenactment for China Club.with Bill Helmer and Rich Crowe... I was able to empty a 50 rd drum and the crowd jumped when the gun went off. I guess many never heard a Thompson in full auto in closed quarters. Every Stembridge blank Performed Well. good times.Ron K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard w. Posted April 2, 2021 Report Share Posted April 2, 2021 George Segal had at some training with firearms. He did a short hitch in the Army after being drafted in the 50s. Very, very few actors today have served. Adam Driver (USMC) is the only one I can think of right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnshooter Posted April 5, 2021 Report Share Posted April 5, 2021 (edited) Along with George Segal, Robert "Napoleon Solo" Vaughn played Major Krueger, assigned to defend or destroy the Remagen Bridge.The sound effects included some of the same used in "Combat"; you can hear Saunders Thompson in a few scenes. Edited April 5, 2021 by mnshooter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colt21a Posted April 5, 2021 Report Share Posted April 5, 2021 Like Objective Burma. i think they recorded many sounds and flipped them from film to film when needed much like airplane engine and crash sounds.And i always like the clicking of the Glock trigger ten times to show its empty Duh after first pull, on empty it does not go back.Like the 1911 oh click click I am empty.The 30 cal and 50 cal belt feeds the most. they have to keep it interesting. And how many times do you check a gun to make sure it's loaded for a robbery. About 3 times.RON K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Mills Posted April 5, 2021 Report Share Posted April 5, 2021 Like Objective Burma. i think they recorded many sounds and flipped them from film to film when needed much like airplane engine and crash sounds.And i always like the clicking of the Glock trigger ten times to show its empty Duh after first pull, on empty it does not go back.Like the 1911 oh click click I am empty.The 30 cal and 50 cal belt feeds the most. they have to keep it interesting. And how many times do you check a gun to make sure it's loaded for a robbery. About 3 times.RON K.To quote Sean Connery in The Untouchables in 1987, the Canadian farmhouse scene: "Did you check it?" ("Yeah"). "Then LEAVE IT ALONE!"It's like on TV, Combat vs The Gallant Men, all the GI and German gun sounds were opposite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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