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Do you know anything about the B.O.L. marking? Nearly all dealer sample BARs I see in the US have this.

 

My 1943 NESA originally came to me with a 1944 dated AOC barrel on it. AOC made replacement barrels.

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Thanks. I have been trying to find the answer for several years with no luck. Several countries in Europe were given or sold these for post war military aid and were imported back to the US between 1968 and 1986 to become dealer samples and I make the assumption that it was one of those countries where the markings originate.

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I was told by the dealer who imported this on from the UK that it had come from Belgium

 

Belgium is my primary suspect as well.

 

Previous thread on the subject -

 

http://www.machinegunboards.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=15493

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Just an educated guess (based on years of study of both transferables; DS; and demilled receivers) BOL is the US inspector who approved the rifles. I do not know his name but BOL only appears on NESA rifles. Other NESA rifles have the inspector marks HBS and WS

 

George

 

I suspected that as well and contacted Bruce Canfield about it a couple of years ago, he said that it corresponded to no known US marking. Like you I have only seen this on NESA BARs.

 

To be on the safe side I have just sent an email to the Royal Museum of the Belgian Armed Forces in Brussels, hopefully they can shed some light on this one way or the other. Also sent a similar email to Springfield Armory.

 

 

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Here are 2 NESA demills I just pulled out of the pile, one marked BOL, one marked WS. These came out of a scrap yard in New Jersey years ago. They wern't demilled overseas and then brought back to the US as scrap; nor were they the remains of parts kits as they went through the chopper as fully assembled rifles.

 

With all due respect to Bruce Canfield, it corresponds to no known US Markings to him. The records are in the US National Archives, accessible to anyone. Record #156.14 'Records of Ordnance Inspectors at Private Plants'.

 

There was a time I would have made the field trip and dug through records to find this sort of thing, but there are the location of the files, someone just has to go do the grunt work of actually locating the info on the physical paper. Inspections were done at the NESA plant in Crompton, RI; in the Boston Ordnance District

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MGCollector,

 

My NESA BAR is number 5198XX (made shortly after yours) and I have had it for more than 35 years. It appears to have the original barrel, which is a NESA dated 6-43. Your gun seems to be one of the earliest made by NESA. Perhaps they were using up spare WWI barrels before the company got fully into production? Mine also has the B.O.L. mark, but I have never been able to determine the source of that marking.

 

Joe

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MGCollector,

 

My NESA BAR is number 5198XX (made shortly after yours) and I have had it for more than 35 years. It appears to have the original barrel, which is a NESA dated 6-43. Your gun seems to be one of the earliest made by NESA. Perhaps they were using up spare WWI barrels before the company got fully into production? Mine also has the B.O.L. mark, but I have never been able to determine the source of that marking.

 

Joe

 

 

 

With all due respect to Bruce Canfield, it corresponds to no known US Markings to him. The records are in the US National Archives, accessible to anyone. Record #156.14 'Records of Ordnance Inspectors at Private Plants'.

 

Odd how that type of detailed information on production guns never made it into Ballou's book yet all the useless detail on experimental guns did. Thanks for sharing that.

 

My NESA BAR is serial number 501024, supposedly manufactured approximately April 1943.

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Reply from the curator at Springfield Armory -

"We have a BAR from NESA also marked B.O.L. Also, we have NESA BARs marked W.S., and H.B.T. (or HBJ)in the same exact manner. They all are perpendicular to the production/patent info and serial number, and also include an ordnance symbol above the initials.


I'd say you're right, in that they are ordnance inspector's initials. This is just a guess, but I'd say because NESA was a conglomerate of manufacturers making various individual parts, perhaps the receivers were inspected separately, which perhaps explains why other manufacturers' BARs don't have initials stamped like that. Again, just a guess.


Also, the NESA BAR contracts went through Boston Ordnance District, whose records are in the US National Archives. I'd bet that the identity of BOL (and WS and HBT) will be in those records as ordnance inspectors."

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  • 3 months later...

Good ole google..ha..My NESA is also stamped B.O.L. with a barrel date of 6/44...D-DAY month...which I always felt was cool...came from Kent Lomont and at onetime was owned by Roger Cox...well traveled BAR...

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  • 4 months later...

I'm new to this site and there is some very interesting information here.

I have a paper weight made from the upper half of a NESA 1918A2 receiver that is stamped B.O.L.. I always wondered what that meant and now I know. My 1918A2 is also a NESA with a NE marked barrel dated 11-44. The receiver is stamped H.B.S.. I purchased the rifle from the estate of Col. Rex Applegate. I love the BAR and shoot it a couple of times a year.

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