firearm Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 I had a new guy call me this am and asking about a weapon that he just purchased. #7013. He sent me some jpegs and it looks pretty clean. However there is a mark on the rear of the receiver that almost looks like a crack to me. What do you guys think? Pic attached Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timkel Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 Looks more like a scratch to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantpanda4 Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 My bet is that is not a crack. Can he get a clean pic of the inside of the receiver? If it were a crack, it would originate near a hole (pilot hole). The mark (scratch or indentation?) goes around the hole, even getting close to it. A crack would have gone right to it.Also that area is not the highest stressed area of the receiver. It is in the corners, where West Hurleys (I know this is a Colt, but same geometry) have cracked in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurencen Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 looks like a screw driver slipped of the Buffer Pilot when taking the upper off the lower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colt21a Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 Nick never had that mark when i owned it, And if anybody knows my rep always great stuff and taken care of and taken apart correctly. Out of well over 100 Thompsons only #894 was restored. And when Gordon saw my last batch of 30 Colts he never had a issue.Heck i helped him with the book. I know a few members have repeated barrel changes and a refinish, or a ww2 part ha ha What a joke proved that as all bull crap or some form or jealousy Because they never stepped up to do a deal.And i can under stand some who want to hide things. If anybody ever called me on a gun i would let them know what was up and what i knew about it. I have been retired ten years now. And since most of my true good friends are long gone. I don't bother with the drama clubs.#7013 Was a nice Original gun going by memory.I did hear a few of The Colts i sold had a major over haul after they left me In the last year or so i have seen them turn up and since i said I would help anyone with a issue on what i remember.Did not have a ton of Thompsons But i made it a quest to locate the best ones out there.Oh yeah and a My M.G.M. GUN was a reblue done ByM.G.M. I had talked to the main armorer there well over 30 years ago who was retired and worked on those guns before Earl bought that pile.It resides in Wisconsin collection.I hope the new owner is happy with #7013. It is a non defect 1921ac. Sometimes when we get involved it keeps on rolling.Look familiar?RON K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merry Ploughboy Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 looks like a screw driver slipped off the Buffer Pilot when taking the upper off the lower That is close to my immediate impression. I think it was a slip up with a screw driver when the upper was being disassembled, e.g., for cleaning, parts replacement, or the like. MHO, YMMV, etc. Be well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridgeport28A1 Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 (edited) What reason would anyone use a screwdriver on the rear of a Thompson? It does not makes any sense to me. Similar to trying to pry out a slide stop in a 1911. Edited August 24, 2020 by Bridgeport28A1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppgcowboy Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 What reason would anyone use a screwdriver on the rear of a Thompson? It does not makes any sense to me. Similar to trying to pry out a slide stop in a 1911.Idiocy runs deep in the human genome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsonlmg41 Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 they look like the edge of rust lines to me, then it was hit with too coarse of steel wool which removed some finish as well? Somewhat common unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 (edited) Could have gotten that scratch if it were placed in a steel gunrack with the buttstock off....maybe more than once?Other than that, I can't think of any other possibility other than maybe set on concrete sans buttstock and it twisted and tipped over?Check into the guns history....might reveal a rack in it's past that could have added those scrapes? Edited August 25, 2020 by john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurencen Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 (edited) people use any tool available, the easiest tool in this case is the screwdriver, tried to push the rod in and slipped off, the fellow only did it once, how many Thompson pivot plates have scratches from pushing to remove the safety and selector levers, myself made a plastic wedge when turned 90 degrees holds the pivot plate arm away for removal yes look at 1911s, they have the idiot scratch 7 out of 10 samples for that pivot buffer take a 1/4 diameter plastic rod and a file handle, push the rod in the file handle works great and will never scratch a receiver many scratches were inflicted on firearms, who would have figured a firearm worth 200 dollars would buy a house 70 years later Edited August 25, 2020 by laurencen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colt21a Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 Nobody with common sense could figure that Price.I bought the gun if memory is correct for $5,000....so the new seller was the bandit i was just the driver.i noticed one i sold for $7,000 back 30 years ago sold for $68,000.00 the later guys made all the big bucks the early old guys now made freaking squat. Spend $5,000 make $2,000 Spend $40,000 make $28 grand. I remember selling #98 for $10,000.00 and the guy reselling it with some b.s. story for $28,000.the early guys are like football players retired form the 60's.. the whole retirement for life is now one season for one player paycheck. the days of $5,000.00 Thompsons.......RON K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavy artillery Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 (edited) Colt21a - I totally agree. I have a whole list of NFA items that I bought and sold for almost the same prices before about 15-20 years ago. It is pretty shocking to think of how quickly these have appreciated over the last few years. This is the supply and demand tipping point we used to hypothesize about while cursing the legislation designed to create this eventual scenario. Edited August 25, 2020 by heavy artillery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firearm Posted August 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 Add to that the factor that your US paper currency has been tremendously devalued by the FED’s printing pressings being completely out of control and you will find that old Thompson was one of the best investments you ever made, if you hung on to it. Better than any savings account. For a benchmark, gold was $279.11 an ounce 20 years ago. Today it is well over $1900 per ounce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CptCurl Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 It looks like a hair stuck in oil against the surface of the steel. Notice there is a hair dangling off the top of the receiver and behind the rear sight. That dangling hair looks like a continuation of the "mark". There's also another extraneous hair off to the right. I hope I'm correct. Curl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigu2fan Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 I agree with CptCurls assessment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colt21a Posted August 26, 2020 Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 (edited) Darn people have the Thompsons laying in the Cat box. Clean off the pussy hair and get back to business. Sharp eye, ha ha like when you get packages and hair is under the tape. Blondes having more fun. Edited August 26, 2020 by colt21a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurencen Posted August 26, 2020 Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 Im sceptical about the hair, yes I agree the fine scratch to the right could be a hair but the larger mark top left appears to be a good size scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard w. Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 Did he say anything about opening it up and looking inside? Seems if he went to the trouble to take a photo and contact you, he'd have taken a good close look at it. Maybe he's a really new "new guy" and needs someone to talk him through the disassembly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KTaka1 Posted April 22, 2021 Report Share Posted April 22, 2021 Hello to all, I am the Owner of 7013 that Nick posted about. Its not that I am new its that I was stuck overseas due to the China V. An extra year twiddling my thumbs. I was working off the pics sent buy the individual I bought it from. Happy to say I have returned. After my arrival, My Colt was transfered to my Dealer perfect timing. I unboxed it and no mark no scratch nothing perfectly smooth. Arsenic Blue huh. Now the wait begins again!I appreciate all the inputs and love the forum. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryo Posted April 24, 2021 Report Share Posted April 24, 2021 7013 has been an interesting read.. from finding the current owners to hair making look like a scratch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colt21a Posted April 25, 2021 Report Share Posted April 25, 2021 Glad you got 7013. Having that gun with the others never bothered me in the least.It was a nice one.Sure i had way better, and also some winners.My Kansas City was a boat anchor. But revived from the guy i sold it to. Whomever bought it from Kents estate...anyways glad you like #7013.I have been going over some old Thompson pics and material i long put away.Ron K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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