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#1 Sandman1957

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Posted 29 January 2019 - 01:16 PM

Friend of mine is looking to sell his Inland M2 Carbine.  It is a registered reciever, and I believe it is an original M2, since the reciever is stamped M2.  I have not yet seen this gun.  I will be going to see it late next week and take some photographs.

 

The gun is physically in the Tidewater region of Virginia.  Besides all the standard photos showing receiver, barrel, bolt, stock markings etc and and SN, I will make a copy of the Form Four with seller's name redacted.  Is there any info I should be on the lookout for that you die-hard carbine types would be interested in.  The only reference I have is the M1CARBINE, 2d Edition by R.C. Larsen.  I will see what else comes with the gun.  

 

Since it is C&R eligible, it can go across state lines to a C&R holder.  It is currently on a FORM 4, in a private owners name.

 

He is aware of current market values and this won't be a "steal".  

 

Cheers

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Edited by Sandman1957, 09 February 2019 - 04:05 PM.

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Posted 29 January 2019 - 03:51 PM

This should be interesting. "M2" marked carbines don't pop up very often.

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Posted 29 January 2019 - 05:23 PM

Some dealers stamped a 2 over the 1 when registering a receiver.

This is how M2 IBM, Underwoods  ect. ,came to exist.

If the gun above is a Inland factory M2 it will be in the 6 to 7 million range.

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Posted 29 January 2019 - 06:20 PM

I was told it is in very good condition.  haven't seen it yet.  It was amnesty registered, so we'll see.  


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Posted 29 January 2019 - 08:51 PM

If you're game, Carbine enthusiasts will want to know every detail that is normally captured on a Carbine Club Data Sheet.  Link is in the pinned post at the top of the page. This would mean complete disassembly of the Carbine, and I understand if this is not an option.

 

At a minimum, please record every marking you can see.  This includes the barrel, the receiver ring, the serial number, any cartouches on the stock, and any markings in the slingwell.  If he lets you take it partially apart, take a photo of the internals from each side, and a photo of the underside of the handguard.

 

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Posted 29 January 2019 - 09:22 PM

Will see what I can do.  It will be to his advantage anyway.  Thanks David.


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Posted 09 February 2019 - 12:21 PM

Went down an looked at the M2 on Thursday.  Also looked at two other guns. Here are some photos, but don't have much time at the moment so this will be a very quick overview. (I used the "comprehensive guide M1 Carbine book by R.C. Larson as my reference).

 

Very nice Inland M2 Carbine.  SN 7062493 which puts it in the "first" full production run done by Inland starting in  April 1945.The barrel is dated 4-1945.

The gun is in overall pristine condition and the wood looks brand new.  There are some mixed parts, and the hammer is not marked.  I did fill out as much of the data sheet as I could, but since this was the first one I have done, skipped parts of the form simply because I was limited with time.  The top hand guard is marked IW, the Barrell Band is AMCO, inside the sling well is marked IO anyway... see for yourself.  I did not disassemble the bolt as I did not want to search for the plunger and spring...

 

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Posted 09 February 2019 - 01:04 PM

Thanks for all the photos.  I like it!

 

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Posted 09 February 2019 - 02:55 PM

Steve, looks good to me.

The hand stamped "2" would be correct on a early M2.

I have several hand stamped M1s, a 6,900,xxx, a 6,89x,xxx and a 6,7xx,xxx..

I like the late carbines whether M1 or M2.

Some of the parts would not be original , but its no big gig. Nice carbine for someone.

You didn't say the price.

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Posted 09 February 2019 - 04:09 PM

Jim,  I don't know the asking price, nor do I know if he already has folks lined up.  I was called in to inspect and photo it.  I did the inspection,dis assembly and told a photographer where and what to photo.  Anyone who wants to pm me their thoughts or get in line are welcome to.  


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Posted 09 February 2019 - 05:03 PM

Looks fantastic to me.


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Posted 09 February 2019 - 09:12 PM

Steve, looks good to me.

The hand stamped "2" would be correct on a early M2.

I have several hand stamped M1s, a 6,900,xxx, a 6,89x,xxx and a 6,7xx,xxx..

I like the late carbines whether M1 or M2.

Some of the parts would not be original , but its no big gig. Nice carbine for someone.

You didn't say the price.

Jim C

 

Jim,

 

Are you thinking the "2" is hand stamped?  I think it's part of the roll marking.

 

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Posted 10 February 2019 - 08:18 AM

David,

Notice how the "2" is ever so slightly below the "M" and there is a gap between the "M" and the "2".

With the machine stamp the "2" would be closer to the "M", and even in height.

Nothing wrong with a hand stamped gun every bit as valuable as a machine stamped gun.

Jim

 

PS. One more item.

If you check the CMP serial number thread you will find 3 M1 carbines sold thru the CMP.

These carbines would be hand stamped M1 carbines. Here is the serial numbers.

7,004,395

7,005,496

7,270,650

Steve's carbine is in the serial number group of hand stamped carbines.

PSS. Is there a crack in the front lip of the .U. bolt ???


Edited by jim c 351, 10 February 2019 - 08:47 AM.

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Posted 10 February 2019 - 09:42 AM

For comparison purposes this is a 7,141,xxx inland M2. 

Hand stamped M2's are not as valuable as roll stamped M2's all other conditions being equal.   If some of the parts on an M2 are not correct it's really no big deal as the value lies in the receiver and it's markings.  For hundreds of dollars it can all be corrected which is superfluous to the M2's value  vs. and M1 in which correcting it can be cost prohibitive and easily drive the gun well above market value.  HTH

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Posted 10 February 2019 - 12:50 PM

David,

Notice how the "2" is ever so slightly below the "M" and there is a gap between the "M" and the "2".

With the machine stamp the "2" would be closer to the "M", and even in height.

Nothing wrong with a hand stamped gun every bit as valuable as a machine stamped gun.

Jim

 

PS. One more item.

If you check the CMP serial number thread you will find 3 M1 carbines sold thru the CMP.

These carbines would be hand stamped M1 carbines. Here is the serial numbers.

7,004,395

7,005,496

7,270,650

Steve's carbine is in the serial number group of hand stamped carbines.

PSS. Is there a crack in the front lip of the .U. bolt ???

 

Hi Jim,

 

Thanks for your insight on it. That's the best hand stamped "2" that I've seen.

 

I see what you're talking about on the bolt, but I'm not sure it's cracked.  

 

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Posted 10 February 2019 - 01:07 PM

Next time I make it to Norfolk will look at that bolt again.  I think it is just a ding, not a crack.  


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Posted 10 February 2019 - 11:15 PM

If you are talking about the longitudinal line in second bolt picture, then you are seeing the feed ramp on the bolt.

http://www.uscarbine....com/bolts.html

Scroll to second and third blue background pictures.

I would be interested in good pictures of the lug areas on the receiver, headspace measurements and muzzle erosion numbers.
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Posted 11 February 2019 - 08:11 AM

N2B,

I think you are probably correct.

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Posted 11 February 2019 - 10:28 AM

Great link you posted on the carbine, I will see what I can do with the photos.  I do not have any gauges, feel free to send me some and I will return them to you.  PM me if you are interested and I'll send you may address and contact info.


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Posted 12 February 2019 - 11:06 AM

Very Nice M2.  I have an inland M2 that is refinished, and a WIN M2 overstamp that is original. I would be interested in what the selling price is just for info, and originals do not come up that often. As a data  point, here in MN ( C&R only state) back in 1968 the Minneapolis PD had a fairly large quantity of M1 carbines they converted to M2s, ( concern over riots etc)  and these were registered in the Amnesty. Later in the 70s, they were sold off to officers, and these are considered C&R and amnesty registered.  They pop up here once in a while, although I have not seen one for sale in several years. Also, be aware that Rock Island Armory ( Reese Bros.) made a BUNCH of transferable M2s out of every M1 they could get their hands on prior to the May 86 law change. These were almost all over stamped "M2". these are NOT C&R, and this has caused us a bit of trouble over the years when guys here would buy them, and the gun would transfer on a form 3 to the dealer, but Not on the form 4 to a MN resident.


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