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Do you need to have Ingram M6 registered to sell if part of an inheritance.....the gun is not in working order the original owner said he disabled all his weapons years ago...My friend would like to sell but doesn't want to get in trouble in NJ...INGRAM M6 MILITARY ORDNANCE LOS ANGELES 45 CAL SERIAL NUMBER 1745..... Edited by bigjaylow
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Yes, it's subject to all the rules of the National Firearms Act. Are you certain that it's not an old dewat with NFA paperwork from a deceased relative? There was another one in NJ that ended up having paperwork, and was legally transferred out of the state, and a member here purchased it, and reactivated it. If you look on this board, you'll find the story.

 

More than likely, what your friend has is contraband. At best, if it is not registered under the NFA, its receiver itself could be destroyed, following ATF guidance for destruction, and its parts could potentially be worth about $1000. At worst, your friend could face severe criminal penalties for having an unregistered MG, even if it is not in operable condition.

 

There are 2 potential options for immediate consideration...The first will resolve the issue entirely, but will result in loss of the item. That option is to call ATF, and have them pick it up as contraband. Another option could be to contact an attorney who works in NFA law, and might be able to pursue an alternate outcome. I've also heard of situations where such items were turned in to a "friendly" local law enforcement agency while the legal details were worked through, to prevent the individual from being in possession of contraband. In NJ, I would think that scenario unlikely.

 

David Albert

dalbert@sturmgewehr.com

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David first off thank you.....I know there is no paperwork we've looked everywhere....when you say destroyed you mean the NFA ATF POLICE...I turn it over to and they destroy it and sell....I understand it is very hard to get it registered in his name to sell....or how can I find out if it is registered without getting in trouble....
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I turn it over to and they destroy it

 

 

give it to them and it will disappear.

 

 

 

if its not register you need to demill the receiver to atf specifications.

 

 

 

 

 

If it's part of an inheritance, I suggest the first thing you do is contact your attorney.

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I'm sort of paraphrasing so some more knowledgeable may correct some of my verbiage as this all happened before I was born.

 

A lot of guns were deactivated before 1968 and you could buy intact machine guns that were deactivated by welding a rod in the barrel, welding the bolt or all sorts of other means. The GCA of 1968 included a requirement that any machine gun that was in circulation could either be registered it would become contraband. Many people had them registered as a DEWAT, DEactivated WAr Trophy, on an ATF Form 5. These guns can be transferred and the owner can also file a Form 1 for reactivation. They hold much of the value as a registered gun that was not deactivated. If the gun was not registered, it is an illegal machine gun. If you think there is the slightest chance it's registered, I would suggest your friend go down the investigation route David mentioned. If he is absolutely sure there is no chance then his best bet is to destroy the receiver per ATF rules and sell all remaining parts. It's the difference between $7000+ or $1000. Keeping the gun or not destroying is subject to much higher costs.

 

This, of course, all assumes that this hypothetical situation exists.

 

Ron

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When your friend calls ATF, they will take the entire gun. They will receive nothing. They will not destroy the receiver for them, and hand over the other parts. However, turning it over to them immediately is probably the most prudent choice under the circumstances, if there is no NFA paperwork likely to be involved from the deceased family member. BTW, I don't know NJ law on possession of the magazines, but they are quite valuable. At least $150 each.

 

Your friend should make every effort to resolve the situation quickly.

 

David Albert

dalbert@sturmgewehr.com

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