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#21 mohawk64

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Posted 17 September 2018 - 08:09 PM

At least used to be when I was a patrol officer
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#22 gijive

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Posted 18 September 2018 - 07:21 AM

"Why would you tell the hotel what is in your bags? Just politely refuse to answer. If they push it, than threaten legal action under the 4th Amendment against illegal searches of your property. A minimum wage hotel staff will not push back." xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx R67, Are you suggesting that Jack should have pushed the issue to the point that the local police get involved?? Next they search Jacks cases and find a TSMG and a BAR. Then Jack would spend the next 4 hours explain the guns are legal. Jack did the right thing, thank God you weren't present to advise him. Jim C

I agree with Jim C on his assessment of the situation.  I was there with Jack when this occurred, but was not present when he was confronted by the front desk clerk.  Getting the local police involved may certainly have made the situation worse.  Being a former law enforcement officer myself,  I am of the opinion that most local small-town police officers wouldn't know much about Federal Firearms Laws and NFA weapons and it may have turned into a long night of explaining down at the local police station.  Besides, it was a Sunday evening and there would have been no way to contact any State or Federal authorities for clarification on the legalities involved.

 

There was no issue the previous two nights so I think this boils down to the individual clerk on duty that evening,  Originally they weren't even going to refund the Sunday night stay when it was requested.  Although we had a nice dinner planned with Jack, he handled the situation in the most expedient manner possible.  I'm sure the Holiday Inn or IHG couldn't care less if I ever stayed in one of their hotels again, but I will certainly try to avoid using them again when traveling.


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Posted 18 September 2018 - 09:49 AM

LSU Tiger, that's quite a list!  looks like it takes in most of Hollywood, at least Keanu Reeves isn't on it. I'm also not a big fan of the NRA since I don't see them helping the class 3 community, but I intend to use that list.


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Posted 18 September 2018 - 11:16 AM

Gijive-I would have loved to seen the New Phila PD get involved as the 3 captains for the department are friends of mine. I relayed the story to one of them and he started laughing. Said he wasnt surprised that some liberal cry baby would pull that kind of stunt.
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Posted 18 September 2018 - 11:24 AM

Just a cursory reading of the  NRA list of celebrities turns up a dozen names of deceased people. Some as far back as 2010.  Surely there are living anti-gunners in Hollywood and the music industry that could substitute  for those who no longer pose a threat to the  2nd Amendment. 


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Posted 18 September 2018 - 11:49 AM

Gijive-I would have loved to seen the New Phila PD get involved as the 3 captains for the department are friends of mine. I relayed the story to one of them and he started laughing. Said he wasnt surprised that some liberal cry baby would pull that kind of stunt.

John,

 

I stand corrected.  Maybe it would have been okay, but I still think Jack made the right call under the circumstances.  Not knowing the local police, I would have been reluctant to contact them based on what might occur if they weren't up to speed on NFA items.


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Posted 18 September 2018 - 11:50 AM

Just a cursory reading of the  NRA list of celebrities turns up a dozen names of deceased people. Some as far back as 2010.  Surely there are living anti-gunners in Hollywood and the music industry that could substitute  for those who no longer pose a threat to the  2nd Amendment. 

 

 

But as Democrats they are still entitled to vote...


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#28 Arthur Fliegenheimer

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Posted 18 September 2018 - 12:00 PM

 

 

But as Democrats they are still entitled to vote...

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Posted 18 September 2018 - 12:10 PM

I find it sadly funny that a CC holder is fine, but an unloaded NFA item is not.  It sucks and sorry it happened.


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Posted 18 September 2018 - 03:49 PM

It is what it is. Im not holding my breath for a response.
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Posted 18 September 2018 - 04:02 PM

I find it sadly funny that a CC holder is fine, but an unloaded NFA item is not.  It sucks and sorry it happened.


CCW is hidden, long gun cases are in plain sight and scare snowflakes especially after Vegas. For the next trip I can see CC expanding his fame into an acclaimed classically trained cellist. Doing so would bring the praise of the snowflakes

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Posted 18 September 2018 - 04:28 PM

Childish, partisan name-calling aside, this progressive thinks the policy needs to be publicly displayed at the entrance and in the welcome material else it's non-enforceable. Here in VA any business can disallow weapons but it has to be clearly posted.


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Posted 18 September 2018 - 04:47 PM

Tennessee has the same policy. Post outside the building. But , you don't tell everything you know.
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Posted 18 September 2018 - 04:47 PM

I did look at my reservation again, there is absolutely nothing in it about no firearms. We stayed there too. 

 

And - nothing posted at the site on the door etc.

 

The damage is done. They ain't seeing me again.


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Posted 18 September 2018 - 05:57 PM

Just use the side door using your room key?  Unless there's no other way to get to your room other than thru the lobby?  Nonetheless, I sure am sorry that happened to you and all the fallout. I'm sure I'm possibly inviting more backlash, but regarding the whole incident, in the words of Charlie Parker, "You know, that's just DUMB!"


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Posted 18 September 2018 - 06:05 PM

I was at urgent Care and had to get a shot. The nurse came in. Told me drop my drawers before I cold , I had to remove my carry from inside the waistband. I laid it on the table. She started ranting how the policy was to confiscate the weapon. I told her that wasn't going to happen. So she put a paper towel over it. So she didnt have to look at it.
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Posted 18 September 2018 - 06:12 PM

Childish, partisan name-calling aside, this progressive thinks the policy needs to be publicly displayed at the entrance and in the welcome material else it's non-enforceable. Here in VA any business can disallow weapons but it has to be clearly posted.


If you believe my post is childish and bashing one entire side of the political spectrum you have clearly missed the point. I can care less what someone believes when it comes to politics.

However, if the sight of a gun case makes someone uncomfortable and of the belief that every gun owner is a psychopath it speaks volumes to where society is heading. Furthermore if a desk clerk is creating policies that are not congruent with the corporate policy or their own written policy I have an issue with that. In my book thats called descrimination.

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Posted 18 September 2018 - 09:50 PM

LSU Tiger, that's quite a list!  looks like it takes in most of Hollywood, at least Keanu Reeves isn't on it. I'm also not a big fan of the NRA since I don't see them helping the class 3 community, but I intend to use that list.

 

 

Glad you found it helpful.  I readily admit, it is out dated, but better than nothing.


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Posted 18 September 2018 - 10:24 PM

I stayed at a Holiday Inn express last month and planned to go shooting with friends. I had some time to plan this trip and decided to bring my MP40 and M2 carbine, both in individual soft cases and then placed both in my old military duffel bag.  I usually do the "what if game" and thought why bring attention to my weapons, will just disguise them in my duffel.  No one even suspected nor batted an eye at me. 

 

Should I have to do this...No, but I plan for the worse and act accordingly.  Not pointing blame to the original poster on this subject, most likely would have done the same, but I had anticipated that could have happened to me at the HI express, based on the vegas shooting and dealing with gun haters.  

 

Agree about not discussing politics, love all legal gun owners,  but funny, usually only have issues with the regressive party folks regarding my gun rights.  


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Posted 19 September 2018 - 12:34 AM

What's in the cases? Possible smart arse responses.....1) Why it's a portable meth lab. 2) Cocaine and cash, just waiting on the hookers. 3) Film making equipment, plastic sheets, and lots of lubricant... some friends and I are going to have a little party later and you are welcome to stop by the room when you are finished with your shift. 4) Machine guns....no, er um, no machine guns whatsoever, is what I meant to say! 5) (speaking to one of the cases) Look, another nosey person who wants to join the rest of you. Seriously though, when I transport MG's, (including bringing them into my hotel room through the front lobby), I always keep them in a nondescript, inconspicuous case. Plastic golf club bag transport case, suit case, tennis racket bags, duffle bag (usually in the Hello Kitty scheme), camping gear containers, non gun related cardboard box, etc. Except for the lobby of the Gold Vault Inn near Knob Creek. We just walk right through the lobby machine guns in hand :)

Edited by Waffen Und Bier, 19 September 2018 - 12:52 AM.

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