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#1 Slightly Twisted

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Posted 08 October 2018 - 08:15 AM

Morning everyone, first time posting and thought I introduce myself.
Im beyond green when it comes to Thompsons, but have grownup hunting and shooting. I have a few collectible firearms mostly from my grandfather, he served in WW2 and managed to acquire a few military guns. When he passed away the collection went to my father who was not interested in firearms. They ended up sitting in a safe for a LONG time. They only came out once in a while. Well it took 15 months but I just got the pearl registration transfered to my family. It is an Auto Ordnance model 1921 SN 10374.
I would love to try and find more history on the gun so if you guys have any information about it or how to get more please sounds off! From what we know he bought it new and has been in my family ever since.
Ill try and get some photos up soon.
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Posted 08 October 2018 - 08:43 AM

Welcome to the forum. Post pictures of everything including the internals. Others will chime in with books that should show some history and will point you in the right direction.
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Posted 08 October 2018 - 09:06 AM

The term pearl confused me a little. The SN could be a Colt gun. Is the left side of the gun marked Colt? Does the barrel have a Cutts compensator on it? There is such a thing as a Pearl Thompson.

 

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#4 Arthur Fliegenheimer

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Posted 08 October 2018 - 09:36 AM

According to G.H., #10374  is a Colt 1921A  1968 Amnesty registered WWII bring back. That would negate the "bought new"  possibility.   From all the possible TSMGs your grandfather  could have procured as a war souvenir he  chose the Colt. WTG! 


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Posted 08 October 2018 - 11:58 AM

Sweet, congrats and welcome to the board! Definitely post some pictures!

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Posted 08 October 2018 - 12:22 PM

Some of us newbies have inquiring minds so pics please
Thanks
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Posted 08 October 2018 - 12:42 PM

WOW!  Thanks, Grampa!!


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Posted 08 October 2018 - 12:47 PM

Thanks for the information! Sorry for the confusion I meant the pearl or jewel of the collection. 20 years ago when my farther took possession the FFL and historian we worked with said that the military never issued the vertical grip, so we assumed it was bought new. He was in Germany up until I believe 52 or 53, they brought back a TON of stuff so that makes sense to me. The gun really hasnt been out of the safe for twenty years, I was allowed to clean it every few years that was about it.

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Posted 08 October 2018 - 12:51 PM

Very nice......with a great patina.

 

Looks like it was one of the guns originally sold to France


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Posted 08 October 2018 - 01:08 PM

Welcome to the boards, great place to learn about your new heirloom.  The gun is a little worn, but still looks really nice.  Right away notice it does not have the usual US markings, no that it would, but the vertical grip and sling looks like it would have been through someone from the UK, but the stock sling placement was normally on top as well as the 1921 wood didnt have sling points.  Either way if only this gun could talk!


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#11 Arthur Fliegenheimer

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Posted 08 October 2018 - 01:13 PM

Thanks for the information! Sorry for the confusion I meant the pearl or jewel of the collection. 20 years ago when my farther took possession the FFL and historian we worked with said that the military never issued the vertical grip, so we assumed it was bought new. He was in Germany up until I believe 52 or 53, they brought back a TON of stuff so that makes sense to me. The gun really hasnt been out of the safe for twenty years, I was allowed to clean it every few years that was about it.

 As board member villafuego pointed out about the French connection to your Colt 1921, you might be interested in this thread:

 

http://www.machinegu...els#entry154606


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Posted 08 October 2018 - 02:51 PM

Being that your colt went there and came back I believe makes your colt one of the more interesting ones.
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Posted 08 October 2018 - 03:17 PM

Wow, A survivor! Actuator looks original. Congrats and welcome to the board !
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Posted 08 October 2018 - 04:13 PM

Thanks for sharing.  I get a kick out seeing these repatriate Thompsons coming out of the wood work.


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Posted 08 October 2018 - 04:40 PM

Is that an Mp40 sling?


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Posted 08 October 2018 - 04:56 PM

Thanks for sharing . Love that Been There Done That patina. Congrats and welcome to the board.
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Posted 08 October 2018 - 08:29 PM

That's going to be a great shooter!   It does look like an MP40 sling.   Get those Colt parts out of that receiver before you shoot it.  They are damn near impossible to replace if broken.


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Posted 08 October 2018 - 08:38 PM

WOW, Looks like its right of the 1970 movie set, You Can't Win 'Em All !   I wouldn't change a thing on it, Congrats!


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Posted 08 October 2018 - 09:15 PM

Thanks for the information! Sorry for the confusion I meant the pearl or jewel of the collection. 20 years ago when my farther took possession the FFL and historian we worked with said that the military never issued the vertical grip, so we assumed it was bought new. He was in Germany up until I believe 52 or 53, they brought back a TON of stuff so that makes sense to me. The gun really hasnt been out of the safe for twenty years, I was allowed to clean it every few years that was about it.

 

Thank you. I was wrong. That's not a pearl, it's a Diamond. Wonderful gun.

 

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Posted 08 October 2018 - 11:53 PM

Welcome to the board, and Thank You for sharing this history. Definitely a Diamond!

The observation about it being one of the Colt guns bought by France is due to the sling hardware and its placement. Everything that I see is exactly correct for a French modified Colt gun.

What a unique find. Congrats to your family for preserving it and making sure it was registered in the amnesty.

I agree that you should locate a set of WWII intervals and swap them out before shooting, especially the actuator, which has a tendency to break sometimes. Dont try to disassemble the trigger frame unless you have the proper tools and knowledge.

Again, Thank You for sharing!

Roger

Edited by TSMG28, 08 October 2018 - 11:55 PM.

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