Dtu2179 Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 Does anyone know if there is an existing list of the guns that were previously owned by Stembridge? I know its a longshot. Looking at a Thompson that is claimed to be a Stembridge gun but cannot verify. I found a phone number on line but it keeps going to voicemail. I know the Stembridge company is out of business but it looks like there may still be someone around to contact. Any help is appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firearm Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 Dan Shea did have a list. Might try to contact him. I bought one of the Dick Tracy movie guns and had that list at one time. I will dig around and see if I can find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dtu2179 Posted January 12, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 Thank you. I am looking at a Dick Tracy 1928A1 from a board member here, but from the list i found i cannot find it on there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dtu2179 Posted January 12, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 Dan Shea did have a list. Might try to contact him. I bought one of the Dick Tracy movie guns and had that list at one time. I will dig around and see if I can find it.Does anyone have his contact info? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRMCII Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 I have an original printout of the guns, if I can be of help, as I bought quite a few from the auction. The master list also identifies movie guns in short detail.Dan will have lists, of course, and may have a separate accounting of verified movie guns.What's the serial number of the gun? if you don't want it to post it here you can post it to me: bmg17a1@gmail.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dtu2179 Posted January 12, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 I have an original printout of the guns, if I can be of help, as I bought quite a few from the auction. The master list also identifies movie guns in short detail.Dan will have lists, of course, and may have a separate accounting of verified movie guns.What's the serial number of the gun? if you don't want it to post it here you can post it to me: bmg17a1@gmail.comThanks. Sending an email now. Duane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifthmdec Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 I have an original printout of the guns, if I can be of help, as I bought quite a few from the auction. The master list also identifies movie guns in short detail.Dan will have lists, of course, and may have a separate accounting of verified movie guns.What's the serial number of the gun? if you don't want it to post it here you can post it to me: bmg17a1@gmail.comThanks. Sending an email now. Duane We were able to contact Dan and he was kind enough to share his notes from the Ellis properties representative, when he was inventorying both movie prop houses. Our movie SMG was verified in his notes. We have the certificate of authenticity with that also states the movie that it was in. The certificate is from Ellis Property. Another note, many movie prop houses stamped their mark on the weapons. S for Stembridge an E for Ellis. Some weapons have multiple stamps from the other property houses that used the weapons in the movies that they supplied. Best bet is to contact Dan Shea. D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dtu2179 Posted January 12, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 Everyone can disregard. The seller has told me its been sold to someone else. We were in purchase discussions and I wasn't aware that he was discussing with someone else, so the info is no longer needed. But thank you to those who offered their help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Mills Posted January 13, 2022 Report Share Posted January 13, 2022 Nevertheless it would be nice to see that list again. I had it saved but it disappeared into cyberspace some years ago. It is (or was) a very long and detailed list. Cool history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRMCII Posted January 13, 2022 Report Share Posted January 13, 2022 Before I read the post above, I just sent off an e-mail to Dtu179 of the contents of the Stembridge second of the two auction lists dated 4/20/1999 which included 11 specifically listed 28A1 "movie guns" and described those as having been used in "Dick Tracy". No serial numbers of MGs were included on either of the Stembridge master auction lists.Another 32 28A1's were listed later in the auction "catalogue" but were not movie guns.FWIW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridgeport28A1 Posted January 13, 2022 Report Share Posted January 13, 2022 If there are no serial numbers on the Stembridge master auction lists. Would a person need a paperwork trail back to the Stembridge auction for verifiable provenance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dtu2179 Posted January 13, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2022 Thanks, but I didnt receive the email. Before I read the post above, I just sent off an e-mail to Dtu179 of the contents of the Stembridge second of the two auction lists dated 4/20/1999 which included 11 specifically listed 28A1 "movie guns" and described those as having been used in "Dick Tracy". No serial numbers of MGs were included on either of the Stembridge master auction lists.Another 32 28A1's were listed later in the auction "catalogue" but were not movie guns.FWIW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifthmdec Posted January 13, 2022 Report Share Posted January 13, 2022 Dan Shea is the best option. If he states that a particular weapon was indeed in the auction of weapons from either Stembridge or Ellis.Thats the ticket. He was instrumental in getting all of those weapons out of CA.If anyone knows about the CADOJ and how they work. Theyll understand. Especially, if one has had personal experience. We checked with him, before we purchased a movie used SMG. It came with a signed certificate from two people that represented the movie property company, stating the the weapon was used in a particular movie. Our weapon does have the letter E stamped in numerous places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dtu2179 Posted January 13, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) The gun I was looking at had a item number. Apparently Stembridge tracked their guns using a letter and number this one was N868 I believe according to what was supplied by the seller. But unfortunately its a non-issue now. Like I said the seller sold it to someone else while we were finishing negotiations. If there are no serial numbers on the Stembridge master auction lists. Would a person need a paperwork trail back to the Stembridge auction for verifiable provenance? Edited January 13, 2022 by Dtu2179 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimFromFL Posted January 13, 2022 Report Share Posted January 13, 2022 The gun I was looking at had a item number. Apparently Stembridge tracked their guns using a letter and number this one was N868 I believe according to what was supplied by the seller. But unfortunately its a non-issue now. Like I said the seller sold it to someone else while we were finishing negotiations. If there are no serial numbers on the Stembridge master auction lists. Would a person need a paperwork trail back to the Stembridge auction for verifiable provenance? Thanks for the info.The number on the letter is N868 so that does verify it was from Stembridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRMCII Posted January 13, 2022 Report Share Posted January 13, 2022 Copied from the 4/20/1999 Stembridge Movie Rental auction of printout published by LMO.Description below is from the column titled: MOVIE USE N868: 1928A1; SAVAGE:: MG: USED IN THE MOVIE "Dick Tracy": $5200: BLANKED-REBLUED UPPER AND LOWER-LOWER IS MATCHING NUMBER-LYMAN REAR SIGHT-FINNED BARREL-CUTTS COMPENSATOR-FINISH IS EXCELLENT-WOOD IS ROUGH-MARKED MODEL OF 19218A1-FOREGRIP HAS BEEN REPLACEDIn reply to the above poster's questions about finding out a serial number of a gun in the auction, Dan Shea of LMO in Henderson, NV has that info. The vintage MGs that I purchased all had copies of original registration paperwork to Stembridge dated 1934. These MGs had never been transferred after their original registration by Stembridge until transferred to LMO.Hope this is useful. FWIW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnshooter Posted January 14, 2022 Report Share Posted January 14, 2022 (edited) Stembridge purchased my 28 (AO152,000 range) from the US Government on a form 2, June 29, 1944.They owned it until 1999.It changed hands two more times prior to my purchase. Edited January 14, 2022 by mnshooter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
booger hooker Posted January 17, 2022 Report Share Posted January 17, 2022 (edited) In 2015 someone on Subguns posted the entire 6-page list of Ellis properties guns and their serial #'s, I'll have to check but I may have saved the 6-page list in an e-mail. I bought a Mac-11A1 SMG that was sold to me as a "movie" gun and sure enough the serial # was on the list of Ellis movie guns...not the same as a Thompson though. I did not know about the "E" stamp for Ellis guns and will have to look for that on the Mac when I get home. I've always wondered how a person could get a certificate of authenticity or be able to track what movies a particular weapon was used in but they probably didn't keep those kind of records for something like a lowly Mac compared to the Red Dawn AK's or the Rambo M-60. Edited January 17, 2022 by booger hooker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterdawg2004 Posted January 17, 2022 Report Share Posted January 17, 2022 Any DD in these sales. I have a C&R 81mm Mortar that I was told was a movie gun when I bought it. It would be good if I could prove it since I am going to try and auction it off this year. Thanks for any info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxfaxdude Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 (edited) I purchased a Franchi LF-62 submachinegun from the Stembridge collection. Here's a copy of the letter that was given to me when I bought the gun. Youtube video shooting said gun here: https://youtu.be/HnUG0Ga5Q9E Edited January 21, 2022 by maxfaxdude 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndArmored Posted January 19, 2022 Report Share Posted January 19, 2022 That youtube link doesn't seem to work. This one does: https://youtu.be/HnUG0Ga5Q9E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxfaxdude Posted January 21, 2022 Report Share Posted January 21, 2022 (edited) That youtube link doesn't seem to work. This one does: https://youtu.be/HnUG0Ga5Q9EThank you! Edited January 21, 2022 by maxfaxdude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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