Bridgeport28A1 Posted December 16, 2017 Report Share Posted December 16, 2017 Since the barrel was replaced and going off the photographs of the finish. It appears to be a recent parkerized finish, not a 1950's Armory parkerizing finish. A very nice looking re-activated USGI M1A1 for $20,000 Sturmgewher ad "M1A1 Thompson- pretty gun, nice shooter. This was refinished and had new barrel installed (Old bbl was California de-activated but they didn’t touch the gun itself). OBO" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petroleum 1 Posted December 16, 2017 Report Share Posted December 16, 2017 Since the barrel was replaced and going off the photographs of the finish. It appears to be a recent parkerized finish, not a 1950's Armory parkerizing finish. A very nice looking re-activated USGI M1A1 for $20,000 Sturmgewher ad "M1A1 Thompson- pretty gun, nice shooter. This was refinished and had new barrel installed (Old bbl was California de-activated but they didnt touch the gun itself). OBO"Thanks for that info i wasnt sure but that wasnt a deal breaker for me either way...i got a good deal in todays world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridgeport28A1 Posted December 16, 2017 Report Share Posted December 16, 2017 You did well as there are not too many $20,000 USGI Thompsons out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huggytree Posted December 16, 2017 Report Share Posted December 16, 2017 To me a Rewat is worth what a nice WH is worth. Thats the advice I gave and thats what he found. A beautiful m1 for $20,000 These guys asking $25,000 for pitted rewats blow my mind. Full price for a Rewat isnt what Id buy. For a shooter a Rewat is perfect but for a Rewat price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inertord Posted December 16, 2017 Report Share Posted December 16, 2017 To me a Rewat is worth what a nice WH is worth. Thats the advice I gave and thats what he found. A beautiful m1 for $20,000These guys asking $25,000 for pitted rewats blow my mind. Full price for a Rewat isnt what Id buy. For a shooter a Rewat is perfect but for a Rewat price.What’s the price disadvantage of a rewat that shows no signs of it former dewat status vs. a non dewat example in equal condition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huggytree Posted December 16, 2017 Report Share Posted December 16, 2017 (edited) in petro 1's case the dewat was some odd CA law and a barrel....i dont understand, but supposedly its just a barrel swap....i wondered why even mention its a rewat at all?? only way to tell is a FOIA and you cant get one on a gun until you own it......or tell the current owner to sit and wait 6 months+ until you buy it when the FOIA comes in.... in the case of the mp40 i was trying to buy the refinish wouldnt take bluing..so you could see exactly what was done...that gun is on various for sale websites right now asking near full ''normal'' price for a mismatch/refinish/rewat.......why when for $1-2k more you can get an original finish gun..... for me id rather have a police 1928ac or wait for the more rare original 1928a1.....original finish thompsons are in short supply right now.. i think petro 1 paid what that gun was worth...maybe $1-2k less.......i think most guns are over priced and thats why they are sitting...low on quality, high on price i doubt you find a nicer $20,000 gun than he got.....but i dont see the $25k guns selling with rewat and pitted finish...they may need to adjust their prices Edited December 16, 2017 by huggytree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inertord Posted December 16, 2017 Report Share Posted December 16, 2017 By the way nice score Petroleum! The overall metal condition and markings on you gun look better then many M1’s that went thru a USGI rebuild or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petroleum 1 Posted December 16, 2017 Report Share Posted December 16, 2017 (edited) I'm happy...Dan Shea gave me a good deal and a good gun too!! Edited December 16, 2017 by Petroleum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huggytree Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 you have scored at least multiple bargain guns so far on my count.....all thousands under value....you could sell all of them for more than you paid the next day....a very smart buyer you are!...its nice to start out ahead of the game on day 1 vs waiting years for values to catch up with what you paid......we all learn that lesson...maybe you will avoid it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petroleum 1 Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 (edited) Just wanted to update this thread. Dan Sheas office called on tuesday said my M1A1 stamp came in. I drove up to Dans offices on wed from phx and picked it up. On thursday i ran 300 rounds thru it at the local indoor range. She ran 100% perfect and i am very happy now!! ty everyone on this great forum for all the info i have received before the purchase all those months while i was waiting.Here is a video taken by the range officer. Vin IMG_5472.mov Edited July 27, 2018 by Petroleum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adg105200 Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 Nice gun. Congrats! Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron_brock Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 Looks sweet Vin!! Congrats! Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thompsonlover Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 Congrats! The wait is over!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryKeim Posted July 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 Nice gun and shooting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petroleum 1 Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 Congrats! The wait is over!!6 months 3 weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFA amnesty Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 Dude, that is so sweet. Congrats Vinn on your Thompson!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black River Militaria CII Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 >"….i wondered why even mention its a rewat at all?? only way to tell is a FOIA and you cant get one on a gun until you own it......or tell the current owner to sit and wait 6 months+ until you buy it when the FOIA comes in…."<No, an FOIA request is certainly not the only way to determine if an MG is a reactivated DEWAT. This is a common misunderstanding. Under ATF rules, a reactivation is 'manufacturing", or as they call it, "making" and as such requires the "maker" to ID the reactivated MG with his name and address. Most reactivations are marked so are clearly identified. Those that are not marked and are registered under a vintage manufacturing source and have been reactivated can be identified as such by anyone familiar with DEWATs and the kind of work required to reactivate. While minor deactivation damage can be repaired with virtually no evidence there is always something that will reveal it.The marking requirement has been a detraction and can contribute minor devaluation on vintage MGs for many collectors and I've made a couple efforts over the last twenty years to persuade ATF to eliminate it but have not been successful even with one of the directors with whom I spoke at KC several times. Too bad since it is stupid and meaningless for many reasons.Excellent craftsmanship on reactivations can restore an MG to virtually total originality so the value doesn't suffer much if at all and depending on the rarity and scarcity of a popular MG, value is not affected. These days with many types of vintage MGs the former DEWAT status is not much of an issue and with the increase in collectors who want new looking examples of older MGs, refinishing can actually enhance the value. FWIW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83Baron Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 >".i wondered why even mention its a rewat at all?? only way to tell is a FOIA and you cant get one on a gun until you own it......or tell the current owner to sit and wait 6 months+ until you buy it when the FOIA comes in."No, an FOIA request is certainly not the only way to determine if an MG is a reactivated DEWAT. This is a common misunderstanding. Under ATF rules, a reactivation is 'manufacturing", or as they call it, "making" and as such requires the "maker" to ID the reactivated MG with his name and address. Most reactivations are marked so are clearly identified. Those that are not marked and are registered under a vintage manufacturing source and have been reactivated can be identified as such by anyone familiar with DEWATs and the kind of work required to reactivate. While minor deactivation damage can be repaired with virtually no evidence there is always something that will reveal it.The marking requirement has been a detraction and can contribute minor devaluation on vintage MGs for many collectors and I've made a couple efforts over the last twenty years to persuade ATF to eliminate it but have not been successful even with one of the directors with whom I spoke at KC several times. Too bad since it is stupid and meaningless for many reasons.Excellent craftsmanship on reactivations can restore an MG to virtually total originality so the value doesn't suffer much if at all and depending on the rarity and scarcity of a popular MG, value is not affected. These days with many types of vintage MGs the former DEWAT status is not much of an issue and with the increase in collectors who want new looking examples of older MGs, refinishing can actually enhance the value. FWIWSpeaking of which, and I definitely agree. It seems Ruben has an mp44 for sale, but for some reason the Florida stamp next to the waffenamps and cos stamps is hard to ignore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petroleum 1 Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 My gun is registered as Auto Ordnance on the stamp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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